DavidM

I tried it out full swing and it is not for me. It definitely makes the swing a right hand dominant motion - which is no good for my game. Slice city. I need the right hand more under the club in a stronger position with a 2-3 knuckle left (lead) hand more on top. So a classic strong vardon grip with a flat to bowed left wrist at top and through the ball. It is not the most comfortable grip for me (a classic weak grip is my natural tendency and feels better - but is flippy and inconsistent) but it is the only way I can play consistent golf and keep the face square at impact.

Thanks - I'll have to give that a try with full swing.

Sorry, but can someone show me what the hell a reverse overlap grip is? Thanks.

In golf - I have noticed that too much of a good thing is often punished. Cruelly at times. So for instance, you were swinging feeling loose and great with some nice easy movement - and subconsciously you take that enthusiasm out on the course and things go haywire as soon as you get to the uneven lies and shoddy tee boxes that you are now presented with. Maybe you added a little more gas to a swing and that was the cause of the miss. So you instantly correct - and try and do more of what you perceived was originally correct - and inadvertently misdiagnose what could be a minor sway, setup or grip issue - or just a fluke. Another miss. Then it is in your head and you are toast. I think this happens to most golfers at some point and the best remedy is having a routine for every shot that you can fall back on as well as some stock shots that you can always rely on - even if they are things like "feet together drill" or 3/4 swings. I know for me it is always a grip issue that creeps in - I love the feel of a weak grip and I have to check it every single time I hold a club to make it slightly strong in order to hit what I want to hit. So everyone has their issues and golf punishes you when you start feeling too good about something. Build a rock solid routine to foolproof your setup and swing.

The Moe Norman swing is deceptively simple. There are many subtleties that you can not pick up on in just watching old videos. Ball position, club at address, grip, shoulders, proper weight shift... on and on. The main reason that this swing is not used more is because there is only one guy teaching it. It does become very consistent once you "get it". But so is any swing. The day someone wins a major tournament using the single plane swing - that is when everyone starts promoting it on their platform as "the greatest thing ever" - since Moe Norman. I will say that anyone that has back or mobility issues should look into it because it is very easy on the back and joints. You are not cranking your back in your backswing rotation - in fact if you go too far back it throws off the timing completely.

Just because you think you are swinging fast doesn’t mean you are actually swinging fast or making speed gains for that matter. Some of my fastest swings are my most efficient swings with the sticks and conversely, when I swing my hardest, they can be quite a bit slower. Without the radar you would never know the difference. This is when bad habits creep in. Get a radar.

You need the radar.

Without lessons, you'll likely never figure it out. Everything you think a golf swing is - is probably wrong.

Very good thread. My biggest problem has always been getting the face closed in time because I am so comfortable holding it open through the hit. Been working on this for a while and it really is a challenge to change bad mechanics like poor grip, rolling it open at the takeaway and not starting the backswing takeaway properly. Have worked on that and swinging on an inside path a LOT - I am now working on keeping the clubface closed through the downswing to promote a draw. This vid has some good thoughts to get the clubface closed.

I for one have to overcorrect and go extreme - to change any swing issues. For example, right now I am overcorrecting the motorcycle move in back and downswing in order to get the clubface closed - because my natural tendency had me fanning it wide open and over time as that crept in - that became my normal "feel good" swing. the rest of my swing is on plane - but the need for me to change that fanning of the club face and holding it open through impact requires a drastic overcorrection - which for me - means trying to really exaggerate the MM motions until it feels more normal and I get the results that I am after - in this case, a hook - which I eventually will dial back to be a draw.

Not to diminish your gains - but your SSR in the pic is set for a baseball bat swing not the golf swing (middle button L-R sets this) . I have noticed that my swing speeds are off when in this setting. YMMV. But yeah sounds like you are ready for a club fitting session at the very least.