I have heard many of the guys I play with claim that they hit their drives 300 but when we play together, I regularly hit my tee ball right with them and further. I would say that I average around 260 simply because I see hitting fairways more important than getting after a driver with a chance of hitting it wildly. I have noticed that the "big bombs" that they think are 300 are usually more like 275-280 going by my SkyCaddie. So that is probably alot of what we are seeing on the message boards. Many times their ball will go high but have alot of spin that causes them to fall right out of the sky, so when they look like bombs off the tee, they are usually shorter once we get to them. Now that is not saying that they don't hit 300 yard shots because I have seen them do it, but on average they are not that high. Also, these guys that hit these long drives usually shoot in the mid 90s simply because when they get the short irons in their hands, they usually hit it fat or fly the green. I have one buddy that hits a long ball but he pulls his short irons almost every time and misses the green. Then they seem to hit their chips fat or with no spin that run off the green. And they proceed to 3 putt. I can see a 20 HCr hitting 300 yard drives. The muscled up long ball means nothing if you can't do anything after that....Drive for show, putt for dough, right?