jonesc03

Hey guys, as I age, I am looking to make a change to (R) regular flex shafts in my irons. I have a set of Mizuno JPX850 Forged Nippon PRO 950GH in near mint condition. Anyone interested in trading their JPX850s in similar shape with regular flex- preferably Nippon or DG. May consider KBS Tour 90 as well.

I had similar thoughts. I have played the SuperTri with the MotoreF1 and really liked it. You have to swing it pretty hard. I ended up buying last year's Superfast TP and prefer the way it plays. That is my preference. I agree with the posts regarding buying Taylor new releases. If you like the club, and you will play it for awhile, its probably a non-issue. Otherwise, expect a significant drop in price within the first year- makes it difficult to accept if you are not convinced and need to make a change.

Okay guys, I would really appreciate your comments and input on this topic. And before I ask, I will say that I understand this is as much a matter of feel and preference, as it is proper club fitting technique. First, I little about me. I have played the game since the age of 7. Played through high school and college as +1. Now, with 2 kids, I play once a week and realistically play to probably a 7. I am about 6'1" and 180 lbs with a smooth transition. Tend to keep my back swing around 80% (a bit more compact for control) and typically hit my 7 iron 150. If its windy, I might even hit a 6 to keep it down. The most consistent club that I have put in my bag in a long time is my R9 4 wood- and here is what I think I like about it- the shaft is heavier than what I used to play. I have a standard length, stiff, F1 Motore in 80g shaft. This club is amazing straight, and it feels as solid as any club I have ever hit. I then decided to trade my hybrid from a 65g to 80g shaft and started hitting that dead straight- and the feel is amazing. Anyone feel the same way and made these changes? Now for the big question. I am thinking about changing the shaft in my Superfast TP (44.5"/D5) AND I am looking for KBS shaft options for my Mizuno MP 58/68 combos (+.5") What would be a good weight in my driver that would match an 80g fairway club? Anyone try the UST AATAS? What weight shaft would you recommend in my irons (given I like the feel of the heaver shafts) without making them too heavy? Your comments are GREATLY appreciated!!!

How do you like your SuperDeep by comparison?

Didn't mean to be harsh. My apologies to Golfro, just felt like it was an obvious post, but agree his message is accurate for everyone. The TP Superfast is a long club. With that, control has a tendency to trump distance. There is a fair amount written from players who have cut this club back an inch or so and have experienced no loss in distance. I was just curious what others are finding. I spent about 6 years in the golf business early in my career and I am a huge advocate in the importance of club fitting- to Golfro's point. Again, I apologize if my response was out of line.

I did not say that I wouldnt or already havent. My question was simple. I am curious what others are using and their opinions on their clubs. You are clearly posting for the sake of posting.

Ready to buy a TP Superfast and I am interested to hear about your shaft and length combinations?

What would you choose? Cameron California Coronado vs Odyssey Black #6? Why?

I was refering more to plugging a club than to the proper tip and length cuts of a professional fit.

Then I would go with a hybrid personally. Demo a couple and get a feel for them before you commit. There are so many good clubs available.

The answer to your question really involves quite a few variables. If it were me, and you were really serious about your game, and getting this fitting right the first time, I would embrace a custom fitting from a very reputable fitter. If you ever get to the Pheonix area, I have heard great things about Hot Stix. My dad was fitted by them a couple of years ago and you can hit just about any club and shaft combination you can think of. Might be worth a look into... http://www.hotstixgolf.com As a some have illuded, I think a custom fit should be done by a professional who can account for your swing and setup. If you have not taken a lesson, perhaps there are some things in your setup that need to be addressed first. The length and lie of your clubs cannot be accurately assessed by measurements alone. Your stance alone could effect both of these variables. If your stance is too upright, or your hands are too close to your body, this will effect your lie angle at impact. I believe the proper length and lie should be determined by your hand position at impact, which is a factor of your height, proper address, and swing plane. It can only be done in person, and by a professional. Otherwise, you will play with someone's best guess. That said, I dont think it is unreasonable to assume you will play with something in the +1 range. Likely to be upright, but how much I cant say for sure. It is true, if you are playing with a club with a lie that is too flat for your swing, the ball will have a tendency to go to the left. The opposite is also true. So will be the effect if you are playing with a club that is too long, it may also have a tendency to go to the left. I believe length will be determined first, then your lie. The longer the club, the heavier it will be. It will effect swing speed and swing weight. It will also effect shaft flex. A custom fitting is your only chance. You do not want to buy a set of standard clubs and plug them. Your swing weights and flex will be a complete disaster. The lie would also be more difficult to address, especially on a cast club if you choose to go in that direction. They tend to be a bit brittle of you need to adjust them more than a couple of degrees. If it were me, and you were going to spend some money on a fitting, I might lean in the direction of a good cast club. If you play a lot, they will last longer than a forged club, and you will get a better return on your fitting. May sound like rocket science, but it's not. Just go get fit, and dont guess at this one.

Hair dryer if you haven't tried to remove the sticker yet, otherwise, Goo-Gone. It works great.

I hope you did not think I was questioning the distance. It is what it is. But knowing why it is what it is, is what is most important. (That was a lot of "is"s). Anyway, in this game, consistency is everything, and you have to do anything you can to remove the "inconsistent". Finding your ranges, whatever they turn out to be, will be a big step. It wont matter if you hit your new 9 iron 150 yards or 180 yards. What will matter most is that you know what you will consistently hit it over an average of conditions and tape it to your shaft for awhile. You will be amazed at how much it will improve your game. Make sure you do this for all of your wedges as well at both 50% and 95%. When you know exactly how far you hit a club, you will take the guesswork out of your shot. Then you can concentrate on the thing that matters most...executing it. Hope it helps...let me know how it works out!

I know you have already bought the TP irons, good choice. I think the TP will be a better iron for your game than the MBs, which I have owned. They will be a bit more forgiving when you need it, and still allow you to shape your shots. If you get too eratic with the long irons, add a couple hybrids for awhile. You can always put the long irons back in your bag at some point. As for a 175-yard 9 iron...if that is actual yardage, consistently, good for you. But I would urge you to go out to the range, now that you have new clubs with factory lofts, and figure out what your consistent yardage is at 95% power. Tape that yardage to your shaft just under your grip and keep it there for a year. Once you know your distances for all your clubs with a swing you can repeat under control, you'll get more consistent on the course.

I would agree with the 5 wood over a 3 wood here. Maybe even a hybrid because it will be more versitile. The higher loft and shorter shaft will be easier to control. I think control is more important than distance when you are trying to improve your game...assuming that is a goal. Which brings me to my next question because I do not know what is in your bag. What wedges to you carry? Depending on your answer, I might say your next club should be one you can score with. If you are giving up most of your strokes around the green, I would focus on that. If you are giving up most of your strokes over 220 yards, then a 220 club might be your answer.

Thanks for the comment. I have not hit the SuperQuad. I have hit the TP Burner and I like the way the ball comes off the face. The Ping G5 just seems to be really consistent. It would be easy to overthink the obvious...if the G5 works, why look for something else???

I agree with this. I would spend the most time considering how you will play these hybrids, and make sure the club you choose, fits your needs. Personally, I like the G5. It plays well off the tee, off tight lies, and it's slightly rounded sole makes it more versatile out of the rough and uneven lies. Often times, the hybrids with flatter soles make the shots out of the rough and uneven lies more difficult to execute. Quality wise, they are both good. Just think through your need.

Cleveland makes a great club. It is about the economics of it all.

Bad advice. What is best for you is what works. Simple as that. And as many here will attest, newer is not always "better", it's just newer. There is a lot of promotion that goes into making the general public feel that way. This is a low margin business, that requires a lot of volume to make money. I am guessing the information he was giving you was better for him than for you. I bet Aldila would have a slightly different opinion as well...

Personally, I would go with the Vokey.

Okay guys...anyone have a comment??? Should I buy a G5 or the SuperQuad????? Love to hear your comments...

I think there are two issues here. One is equipment and the other is technique. I am of the mindset that, while you cannot buy a better swing, equipment can have a huge impact on the result of any swing. If it were me, I would start by analyzing your swing. Setup, grip, swing plane, swing speed, etc. Then determine some specifics you can base your analysis off of. Even a good cavity back, that might have too stiff a shaft, or is too short, or have the wrong lie will cause poor results. Once you get the basics figured out, then you can try to solve the real problem. If you start changing equipment too soon, you might be changing it more than once. Remember, lower lofted irons are harder to hit, hence the larger cavity. If you don't want to see the cavity at all, you might not get the forgiveness you are looking for. Maybe consider a partial set with a thinner top line on the 6-PW and go with some good hybrids for longer irons. If it were me, I would be more concerned with the view of the ball in the air than on the ground... :)

Contact Callaway and ask them what they would be willing to do for a reshaft. Otherwise, if the club is in great shape, you can easily sell it for more than your Dad paid for it, and buy one with the shaft you want.

Dittos...well said. Perhaps reshaft the 6 iron or find a 6 iron demo in your club and test it on the range for actual feel and ball flight. I would only reshaft your whole set once you are absolutely convinced. Otherwise, it is too expensive of an experiment...

Nike VRs...consider the source behind them :)