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Totally. I basically put 2 extra wraps under a Standard for 3 clubs (wood, mid-iron, wedge) and 4 extra wraps under a Standard for 3 more clubs (they were out of midsize; driver, mid-iron, wedge) and then found over a couple range sessions and a round that while the 2 wraps did feel better than normal, the midsize felt great.

I've actually recently taken it a step further and realized that as I fixed my grip, I needed a thicker club grip than "convention would dictate". I've since changed to midsize and the feel and results have been night and day (so far).

So fun stuff, was tinkering with the revised lead and trail grip when I got home and so far it DEFINITELY feels more solid in motion which was counterintuitive at first since my previous grip felt more solid at address but 'loose' during the swing; we'll see what the range holds for me what I did notice is that when I take the grip with the club off the ground and then set it down, it becomes more hooded at address so I'll have to be careful about that when setting up

Will do! but will have to go to a different range for that because of the way the bays are setup at my usual spot ha

So potentially one of the contributing factors to the chicken wing follow through.

Interesting, cheers Eric. Excited to get to the range tomorrow and work it out.

Gotcha, thanks! It helped me feel like the club was more secure with how weak the left was, so maybe that adjustment will help mitigate the right. It currently helps me square the face better but it does feel cramped sometimes and I’m working on that too.

So more like this I take it

So would a more functionally sound gripping mechanism be (with club off the ground) align the grip further down, more like this, before I wrap anything around? Certainly possible, I struggle with 'feel vs real'.

Interesting, what faults does it promote? I'm not sure I follow? haha nice meme - I guess the way my hands ends up settling looks similar, though the diagonal one feels like it sits more naturally in my hand..

Maybe I'll try it again! When I did way back at the start of playing golf, my trail pinky got sore at the fingernail but I was probably death-gripping back then.

Hands aren't tiny, but with wrist line to middle finger tip being just under 7.5 inches and my middle finger coming in at 3 inches long, my hand is mostly palm. I've tried to replicate things like this but I just can't keep my fingers consistently wrapped around the grip, especially the pinky and especially when trying to have the fingers perpendicular to the grip along the 'palmar digital crease' as written in that thread. That's with a standard grip with no extra wraps. I feel like the grip moves in my hand and I tend to get weird skinny callouses on the blue lines here. This may be more that my hand doesn't like cord, but still. If you numbered the segments 1 to 3 with 1 being by the finger tip, I feel like my hand is more comfortable when the grip is aligned diagonally in lead hand, resting on the pinky on segment 3 (slash the crease below) and resting on the index on segment 2 (slash the crease below). I also know that just because it's comfortable doesn't mean it's functionally right. When I do manage to execute a full swing without feeling the club moving in my hand it obviously feels insanely crisp and solid in comparison to other swings when it moves. I just bought a full set of Undersize Tour Wrap Microsuede to test out a handful on clubs, before I regrip all 13, but I figured I'd run these thoughts past TST. I'm going to try to share a video taking my grip later today or tomorrow morning.

So to put it another way, you believe that where I’m putting the vertex of the arm triangle is a byproduct of letting the trail elbow slip too wide and not that the trail elbow slipping is the byproduct itself? That def helps frame it, or at least focus it. Thanks

All makes sense, cheers. I was just trying to orient the drill in 3D space. The two arms ultimately work together and if my trail arm/elbow is too far to the side it had me thinking that maybe I’m letting my lead arm get too splayed out flat across my chest in an effort to keep my elbows close together.

If you oriented a clock where 9 PM is directly left and 3 PM is directly right from your field of view in the first drill (hands up, then turn), are your hands going up to 1 PM?