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What do you mean? Many courses here have as many as 6 tee boxes, but the local course norm here seems to be that for handicaps of 25-28+ they recommend the white(or second from front) tees right on the score card. A 40 hc certainly would be 28+. One place has it posted right on the wall as you exit the shop towards the first hole. Usually the green(front) are listed as "ladies". If one doesn't like the golf course recommendations, you could always read this: tee box selection strategy I only commented on the score card because I was tired of playing the blue and blacks with my buddies, which I was obviously not ready for, and since the golf course administration went to the trouble of suggesting I move up I took the advice.

Tell the truth.... you were doing the "chubs" and had your hands on his hips, huh...huh?. It's all in the hips baby. Seriously, as a new guy I have had a few folks offer on the spot observations/advice. I'd feel very offended if a pro came running out telling me I can't get said advice and he is the only guy who can give lessons. I mean if you see a newb struggling with an obvious error, is it really a terrible thing to point this out to him, assuming of course he takes the constructive criticism well. "Teaching" for pay I understand, but I also believe there will always be the grey area when it comes to close friends/family and the occasional range advice.

63/36 winter golf conditions. 55 in good conditions. Are you playing the recommended tees for your handicap via the scorecard?

If they are in fact to the left or right, then the straight line distance to target is increased. Assuming they are aiming cross range at the target which the club in hand is expected to reach, if the ball is determined to fly the target then it has exceeded that distance. On a side note, one range in town (World Golf Sand Creek) has a forward and rear tee area. I assume they rotate for maintenance. There is a sign posted behind the front but more forward than halfway that states "all yardage measured from this point". I'd be willing to bet the yardage is within 5 yards per marker and I have seen balls carry the range from the back. We have found range balls behind the range on hole # 3 which runs perpendicular to the tees, and well beyond the markers and tree line backstop. This course is not very nice, but it's cheap - and I doubt there are a ton of tour players visiting the Springs to hit those long balls.

Ever shoot a rifle with iron sights? I can shoot a half torso silhouette at 300 yards on my M-4 with no scope but you think someone can't see if a ball exceeded a giant sign on the ground at 250? I think that your logic is way off man.

I know... But I wanted BR so it was a no-brainer to save the $5 and give the other to my brother/niece. Odd that I can it cheaper with the DVD version than without

Is there an alternative, other than buy and hope? Are there more reliable systems? Just seems that so many clubs are for sale/trade with little use because they don't meet expectations... how can this be reliably prevented?

Stopped by wally World to buy something and saw Avatar has been released on BR and DVD. They had copies of both AND for some reason they were selling a combo pack for 19.99. I kept the BR for myself and am giving my brother the DVD version. PS they sold DVD for $14.99 and BR for $24.99. I hope this becomes more common - $20 Blue Ray I mean...

TW - If you're topping a lot, then maybe your 200-220 drives are just have a low launch angle. Consider a launch monitor session? It's probably the swing, not your 10.5* Once you sort out your swing you'll find some more yards I bet. Good luck my friend. PS - will you pass me your little black book?

My friend went to look at drivers the other day at DSG. I tagged along. Using the launch monitor and after hitting 10 shots he then removed the best 2 and worst 2 shots of the bunch. The remaining 6 were varied by yardage but mostly within 2-5* lateral trajectory and 270-290 yards. I know it's a "virtual" and not the real world, but the take away point here is the removal of the best and worst and taking what remained as a comparison pool. I think it makes sense to exclude the best and worst of the day and see what's left. If you're hitting 275-300 then it will still reveal that, and if you're hitting 250, you'll know that too. If you are a confident 300 yarder then move the white tees on a short par 4. If you are pitching back towards the tees on your second shot , there's not a lot to dispute then? Buut, if you're 30 yards short that's what it is...

Colorado Springs here - I think all the publics let you wear jeans. Collared shirt seems to be the norm. I Prefer to be in shorts when outside in the heat, and go with a nice khaki style. Probably because of 3 hot tours to Iraq and having no escape. That said I have worn jeans, not wranglers not not falling off my ass, a couple times this winter. I have also worn pants. Never felt I was being disrespectful to anyone in jeans, but I did kind of have that lingering feeling that I was under dressed. I will probably not wear jeans this summer, but that certainly isn't a 100% rule. I think jeans for winter golf isn't too bad though.

^^ Wife took me to get a cart for V-Day. She was looking and decided to have me pick. I couldn't spend the 200 bucks on a cart, decided to pay the penalty for now.

I still say that it's mental. I think shanks said something about coping mechanisms - and to use those words makes sense. If a golfer tees up with a driver 13 times and 5 are the good ones that go 260 and straight then 260 isn't his average. To count in the other 8 that were 175 and in the woods is hard on the ego, and so they get dismissed, whether consciously or not . I think that even though 270-300 yards on the range might really be the case for some people, it isn't relevant towards stats and averages if it doesn't happen on the course. The reason I say that is because pressure increases when the scorecard is in play. Another way to look at it is if I land my 8i on the range target green does my GIR go up? If I one putt all over the practice green does my putting average decrease? If SHAQ makes 100/100 free throws in practice is he the new league leader for free throws?

Maybe if you're about even on drives then the difference with the irons is just the loft? If Bob hits 1 club stronger by virtue of loft, then that 8i he pulls when you grab your 6i might not be the real story. You probably don't care because your ego seems in check... but if he making a big show of it you might have some ammo to fire back. Seems like if amateurs can hit a consistent 250 and FIR that's a solid achievement. Also seems that to take a 500/Par 5 down in two it'll take more than that unless you really beast the 3W off the deck. My typical drives are NOT in the fairway and it seems like when I do pop off a real good one it goes left, because I have compensated for the slice in my alignment by that point.

Not that I have personal experience with this but another benefit of RSS' philosophy would be that if you hit a shot that is a typical "good" shot for you, but then opt to hit a 2nd which is worse you're walking up to the first ball with negative thoughts. But if you're satisfied that you won't/can't really be any better why not smile and move up. Do the rules require that you use both shots off the green, I assume not.

DISCLAIMER: This post may not make sense because I have misunderstood some definitions or made poor assumptions: If forged blades are for skilled players, and cast cavity backs are designed to offer technology that helps the higher handicapper by increasing forgiveness, launch angle, etc. - then where does a forged cavity back come in? Do they play the same as cast CB's, and just feel different at impact; or do they in fact play like forged blades? What is the skill level these are best suited for/designed to be used?

Ha ha, sorry - Army talk... it's stuck in there sometimes - should have angle for anyone else reading this.

^^ yes, Because they are measuring to the fairway where it bisects the back azimuth from the green, right?? And sorry, I didn't mean to use the obstacle distance in tee shot calculation, I was just stating that if they are planning the obstacle placement against average hitting distances, then it should be safe to say that they measure the 150 yard marker for accuracy.

Congrats to you for taking the risk and it working out. Sounds like you're gonna have a breakthrough year. Best thing you have going for you is confidence, that alone has to save you a couple strokes just for positive thinking.

Not sure where I read it, but did somebody post that you can't figure yardage by subtraction? Maybe for doglegs but straight-aways? So if on a 400 yard hole, the 2nd shot is from 150, this does not substantiate a 250 yard drive? I mean I know it isn't like an exact science to the yard, but I have to think that they didn't just run down the fairway and stick a marker in the ground. And sure, its from the center of green, not the pin. Doesn't it make sense that if they are to spend so much thought to planning exact yardage to obstacles just so that "John Q. Average" hits the bunker when he misses left that they'd measure the markers when they place them to reward good course management? If not why even bother having the yardage sign at the tees. Black tee 475-515, give or take 100 yards....

Close. It should be called how big is your ____. Because every time anyone claims to out-drive the so called superstars they get all envious like in the locker room.

You may be past this type of training aid, but... http://www.birdieball.com/ Bought one at the golf expo last month. Got the 12 Balls, Strike pad, and target for $25.

Yeah I think Scooter or whatever the judges name is was standing at the drop point, just off the green, who knows, could have holed it and threw Jimmy a nice wink As said by others though - Amazing display of sincere love and respect for the game. props to you B.D.

Good input - I was using the wikipedia(sp) site to try and learn how it all works, anyone know a better source? Seems interesting that these positions aren't as fluid as say the World Tennis Rankings. It's great that someone can get to the top and stay there, but also sad that even the World #3 player might not even consider the possibility of reaching the #1 spot as realistic. Even worse for the fans who like most here stated pretty much write off the thought of there fav's moving up on top one day.

Thanks IACAS - Maybe one day I will man up and play 18 holes, but until then I'll double check the course staff.