BadGolfer

Mine came today. Seems good enough. Good weight. I just bought one to get used to blade putters since I've never used a blade before.

Every time I see a price drop or sale on an item it always for only right handers. You can't test anything in stores because chances are they won't have it. I literally drool with envy at all the right handed putters in row upon row at stores, then go over and test the 3 left handers they have sitting in the corner. What if, for example, I want to test the Ping G5, G10 and G15 to see if I can go with a cheaper model? Nope, can't do that. Especially not now that the g10s are on sale (right handed only apparently). Same thing with burner irons I wanted to go try. Even after going to multiple stores, good luck getting more than one model from each brand. How nice it would be if your main priority when looking around to buy something wasn't checking the club head to see if it is lefthanded (they never are).

Ugh, S&T; was doing wonders for my game for about a week and now I'm slicing everything again. What should my shoulder movement be like? Keep in mind I'm trying to get rid of an outside in swing that is slicing the ball.

Just ordered the 742. Hey, who knows?

http://sellout.woot.com/?ts=12827576...ecff884ec2db32 I'm thinking of ordering one of these just for the hell of it. Thoughts?

I'm no expert, but I think this just means you need to practice more to consistently hit it hard enough.

Burner irons for $150? Where?

But when I am playing with my irons I definitely go shorter when I place it back farther, and it goes higher. I'm pretty sure this is the same for my wedges, although I have no really ever tried putting it forward in my stance.

I always thought the higher you wanted it to go, the further back you put the ball in your stance. But I was watching some videos from pros and they seemed to say that you should put the ball forward more. I feel like this would make me blade it more often though. What is the correct placement here? The main problem I have with chips is when I get inconsistent with getting under the ball and I can't get it up in the air. Also, they seemed to stress opening the club face to get the ball in the air. How does this work without slicing it? Are you closing it back up when you actually swing your club?

Do you think it would be weird to bring your regular putter to putt putt? I so want to do this with my big mallet putter.

but damn did I destroy all my non-golfing friends in minigolf last night. It's the little things.

Hm, I thought the G15s were 600, but I just looked again and they are 700. Any chance that they would go on sale soon since the season is winding down? Originally I only wanted to spend 500, then grudgingly upped my limit to 600. 700 is REALLY a stretch. I would buy used but I would be nervous spending hundreds of dollars for used clubs on an ebay auction. Plus, its really hard to find left handed stuff used.

I guess I'll just have to practice. Its hard to practice of those terrible mats at the driving range without a tee though. I do feel like my game is missing something big, like right after my drive on par fives or long par fours. If I could just hit it with a wood instead of resorting to my 3 or 4 iron I could probably take a stroke off that hole every now and then. Every par 5 I have to sink it in one putt to par, since after my drive (like 250 yards on a good hit) I still have to go another 250, which for me is 3 more hits unless I get lucky and hit the green on my third stroke. Usaually its drive, get closer, get really close, and then chip on.

I don't know my handicap! 25 seemed too low so I upped it. I wouldn't put too much stock in that handicap number I have, as I am still rapidly improving. When I get to my limit and am not improving a couple strokes each time I go out, I'll let you guys know. Just from buying my new driver and changing my swing to stack and tilt (or what I think stack and tilt is from watching videos) I have changed my drives from going 130 yards out and 40 yards to the left to hammering them straight out easily more than 200 yards fairly consistently. Which is why I really want new irons because I definitely feel like it would improve my game over the scrap metal I am playing with now.

Try as I might, I find it nearly impossible to get under the ball with a wood in order to get the distance that I would be using it for. My irons always go farther because I can actually get them in the air. I think this is a common problem too as the few guys I golf with also hardly ever use their woods, and some of them don't even include them in their bag. So, tips?

Thanks. Yeah my handicap isn't 17, I put that on there when I first joined and though that was for 9 holes...

Yes I will definitely end up testing a lot and check around to see if I can try before I buy. I just wanted to check that this wasn't a big no-no like buying a draw driver when you are only 19. I am still using my $200 starter set irons which just about break my wrists every time I hit with them. My hands are still sore from playing this morning.

When I posted that I was thinking about getting a draw driver, my thread exploded with people cautioning me against it. I took the advice and got a regular driver and by changing my swing my slice is pretty much gone without buying a special driver that might hurt me later on. Now I'm looking at irons, and I have a wide choice in the $500-$600 range. I haven't been able to really test much yet, but I was wondering if the same thinking applied to game improvement irons. I'm referring to models like the Ping G15's which have a much wider sole which apparently allows for more forgiveness... but less shaping of the ball. I could just as easily go for more traditional irons like Taylormade Burners. I don't know if my game will ever be at the point where I will be intentionally putting spins and draws and fades on the ball with my irons, but then again I never thought I was going to get rid of my slice. So, will I be kicking myself 5 years from now if I buy PING irons? I'm not planning on buying new clubs for a loooooooooooooooooooooong time after this.

You know, where you can practice into it and it shows you how your ball would fly. I'm thinking of going to test some irons there and I don't know if I should rely on that at all or just completely on how they feel. How do you test clubs?

Well that is kind of good to know. I knew a lob wedge was just to help but I thought a 3 iron was standard gear in almost 100% of bags. I think I would be better off with 4-AW and the lob wedge since I hardly ever use my 3 iron anyway... Although the sets with 3-PW seem to come with a 3 and 4 hybrid which I like.

When I buy irons I will have the choice of 3-PW or 4-AW. I REALLY want to get a 64 degree lob wedge because I have tried one out and it was hella fun and I liked being able to stop the ball close to where it landed on the green. If I buy the 3-PW, I can buy the lob wedge and have all my clubs. If I get 4-AW, I still want to get the lob wedge but then I will not have a 3 iron. So, can a wedge with such a monstrous angle replace a sand wedge or would I be screwing myself for no real reason other than liking a certain club? 48 to 64 degrees is a very big difference...

Because I would get some satisfaction out of finding a brand that I really liked. There is something to be said for really liking a certain company, and you can make it your "trademark" that you play a certain brand.

I have some friends who want all their gear to be from the same company, or they will take pride in saying that they play Taylormade/Nike/etc. Do you try to keep your bag filled with the same brand, or does it not matter to you? I suppose it would be nice to have all the same brand, but you are kind of limiting yourself.

So I decided to give stack and tilt a try today at the range as a change from my normal (horrendous) two plane swing. I have no clue if I am doing it right, but... my slice is gone. It used to be that every drive would go about 120+ yards forward and 40 yards to the left (left handed). Due completely, I believe, to a bad swing path. I was focusing too much on the club face being open and closed, but that was not the problem since the ball would start straight and then curve. The real problem was having a swing that went out to in, creating side spin on the ball. Here is what I concentrated on: More weight on my front foot, and increase weight throughout the forward swing, instead of shifting around so much. Instead of having so much horizontal shoulder movement I concentrated on keeping my head still and dipping my shoulder vertically. No more raising the club so much. I was trying to swing along a straight target line, but as I have now learned this is incorrect as a club swings in an arc. Now I swing back on one plane, waaaay farther back away from my body, and dip my shoulder to be able to do so farther. Putting my hands slightly in front of the ball. Based on what I have changed, what other tips should I follow? This is all for my driver btw, I haven't had a chance to apply this to my irons yet, but I am sort of afraid to since my irons are already straight... I'm extremely excited right now. I've been miserable on the course lately due to my terrible drives.

I recently discovered this type of swing, and I am planning on going to the range tomorrow to give it a shot. I am currently just trying to combat a slice on my drives. So the whole point is to sit forward a bit and change your swing path (overly simplistic, I know)? Like in this video: They change the point where the club face contacts with the ball to a higher point in the arc. I am dubious about the geometry involved here. Wouldn't this cause the club to be open and therefore slice even more? And also, with the one plane swing, it seems like it would be more of the motion of cutting a tree down with an ax, which would go out-in even MORE and cause MORE side-spin and a larger slice. Could someone help me understand this type of swing? Or as a beginner am I just going to confuse myself and make my game even worse?