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ahh, because my arms start moving down before my lower body? I find that when I try to move my hips first my head is all over the place. I guess that's something I need to work on too. What should I work on first? Flipping, Hip Movement, Weight Forward, or something else? I know if I try to tackle everything at once, I"m going to end up getting too many thoughts in my head. Right now I'm looking to improve ball striking consistency, because as you observed, I do hit behind the ball way too often. Accuracy would be next; I'd like to hit the ball in the general direction that I'm aiming. At this point, distance would be last on my list, because without the other 2, the distance isn't going to help much.

I'll check that out, thank you. I didn't post it initially because of how washed out the video is due to the sun being in that direction, and my camera angle was too high so you can't see the ball until it's in flight. I see what you're saying about my body moving to the right though. I'm actually trying to keep my weight on the left foot, but clearly I'm failing at that, heh. Does it look like my swing is getting too far behind me on the backswing, or is that okay?

I had the same experience after reading the SnT book, but I'm a beginner so I know for a fact that I wasn't doing hardly any of it correctly.

Disclaimer : I'm terrible at golf, usually shooting around 120 on a par 72. This is my first video, and I know I'm doing tons of crap wrong. My amateur analysis: my swing plane is too flat; my wrists are turning too much during the backswing; my grip is too tight; i suck at golf;my left arm bends slightly at the top of my backswing; This particular shot was a ground ball to center field.... hooray. This second video is for comic relief only. Caution : Don't consume beverages while watching me suck at golf.

Crazy, I've read some of the S&T; stuff and while it looks like it might be decent, the complete lack of S&T; pros in my area is a concern. I wanted to at least get the very basics down before I went to a pro, because I don't want to waste $100 for them to tell me that my grip is too tight (i know that) and my club face is open (i know that) and my swing is too much out to in (yup). I'm trying to fix the things I know are wrong with my swing before spending the cash on a pro. Is that dumb? Would I be better off going to a pro instead of trying to fix those things on my own? Would it be worth the $75-$100 per hour? I'm admittedly a terrible golfer, I shot 121 on my last 18, and that's about average for me. So I have a whole lot of room for improvement, lol.

Thanks iacas, I've read a lot of your threads and have purchased the stack & tilt book, so I understand the points you are making. I am 99% certain that my club face is open at impact, but I also have an out to in issue as well. I'm trying to fix the club face issue before I move on to the more difficult task of changing my swing to an inside swing. I think the cause of my club face being open is that I tend to roll my wrists similar to the way a batter rolls their wrists when swinging at a baseball. I can feel myself doing it, but so far I haven't figured out how to fix it other than mentally forcing my wrists to keep from rolling. Shripe, that looks like a pretty good aid. I might pick it up, has anyone used it and had results that showed at the range/on the course?

I have a terrible slice with my driver, which I believe is mostly caused by hitting the ball with the face of the club open. I don't have a range near my house, and would like a decent training aid to use in my back yard. I have neighbors, and my yard isn't huge... so what is a good training aid to use for correcting a slice? Are impact bags any good? I've tried the wiffle balls and foam balls, but neither of those seem to react the same way as a normal ball.

I went back and forth quite a bit trying to decided between Ebay, Rock Bottom, Callaway Preowned, or Gigagolf. I finally decided to go with the Cleveland CG Gold Black irons on Rock Bottom. Can't wait til they get here. Anyone have experience with Rock Bottom? Says it will ship in 48 hours and be delivered in 1-6 days.. am I going to get them closer to the 2 day mark, or closer to the 8 day mark? I'm replacing a set of Dunlop clubs that I got for $25.... these will surely be better.

Ordered a 3 Iron, it looks great. Feels really good too. I went and tried out a Callaway X-22 today, and the Giga GX-922 feels really similar. I also ordered a TRX Ti Driver, and it looks.... ummm... invisible. It wasn't in the freaking box. It was on the Invoice in the box, but the club wasn't in there. Just shot an email to their tech support.... anyone else had this happen?

Having read several of the threads concerning used clubs and their value, I'm almost ready to commit. Being 5'7" tall, I need a club with a lie that is about 2 degrees flat. That being said, most of the used clubs that are reasonably good deals are standard lie. Is it a good idea to just buy the standard lie clubs and get them adjusted? Anything I need to consider (heard forged is better for this)? Is the benefit of buying new clubs to get them to the correct lie up front worth the cost? Lastly, about how much will it cost to adjust the lie of used standard lie clubs?

I'm in the same boat right now. I'm either going to buy these http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/adams-...irons-set.html Adams Golf- 2008 Tight Lies 4-SW Hybrid Irons or http://www.gigagolf.com The Giga Golf GX 922 irons. I'm leaning toward the 922's because I can get them in graphite for relatively cheap, and I can get the lie of the club adjusted as part of the cost. I'm 5'7" and got unofficially fitted at the golf store locally, and the Ping Orange Dots (-2 degree flat) and -1/2" shaft were what fit the best. Opinions welcomed :)

Thanks guys. I went ahead and ordered the S&T; Book from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Stack-Tilt-Swi...8441258&sr;=8-1 hopefully that's the right one. After I'm done with that, I might buy the other one.

What's a good book for a complete beginner to learn how to properly swing a club? I searched and found a thread from 3 years ago that recommended Ben Hogan's book. Is there anything else I should consider? I've swung a club (badly) a few times. Played 18 holes a couple of times and haven't gotten under 120 (yes, I'm that bad). Rather than jump straight to expensive lessons, I want to try a book or 2 first. And yes, I saw that there was an entire forum dedicated to books, but it seemed to be focused on discussing individual books (reviews, etc). I figured this was probably the better place to post. Thanks!

Boomer Sooner :) I'm glad the Big XII stayed together... you guys can pummel us at BBall every year, and we can return the favor every other year in the sport that matters :)

33, aka, too old to be trying to learn how to play golf....

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