I played today in the scorching heat, playing the pinnacle and first hole gave me a chance to see it in action, hit into a 390 yard par 4 from about 110 and pin was up front maybe 10 yards deep into the green. I hit a lob wedge at about %80 and the ball flew true with a nice arc, it hit the front of the green, i couldnt see a mark, but from the fairway I saw the ball land, bounce forward, and roll forward another 5 yards im guessing. next hole was a 171 par 3, the pinnacle landed(green) bounced and checked /ball mark was maybe 10 feet in front of ball. 2 pars in a row, the next hole was a triple, no test could be conducted since I landed a pond from the approach. The next hole was 130 out on a par 5 and again the lob wedge, it struck green bounced and checked 10 feet past ball mark. The ball was flying far today so dont start with the 130 with a LOB? on the ninth I flew one 170 uphill, but I may have hit a sprinkler or hardpan. course was dry and hard, I thought I was flag hunting from 140 and gave it %95. My conclusion so far is that the pinnacle fxlong is a great distance ball, but garbage from under 100 yards as far as spin is concerned. I was too tired to practice the prov1 and only played 14 holes. I have previously tried testing the prov1 greenside and cant detect a great difference from 15 yards.