Cleveland Gunmetal - interesting question for me. I played TA5 Gunmetals through most of last year. I also shot in the mid 80's normally with an occasional low 80's. I purchased a set of Titleist 735CM's at the end of the season and continued to play in the mid 80's. I am impressed/happiest with the short irons. I was never able to hit a green with the TA5's and have the ball stop very quickly. Now with the 735's I am only getting a small amount of roll. I have experienced your same problem with the long irons and I might just carry my TA5 3 and 4 irons, we'll see. If you are a dedicated Cleveland man you might want to wait and see what the new CG Red or CG Gold's look like. The Reds, per some rumor page I found, are a replacement for the CG2/CG4 Tours and the Gold's will replace the CG4's. I am still happy with my purchase if that helps you make up your mind to give players irons a try.