cbrian

Getting better... been drilling RoC when I can. I still get some decent over draws at times, but its getting better. Light years ahead of where I was when I started this journey. Playing with some guys on Thursday that roll their eyes when they see what I work on, so... can't wait to bomb it past them all day. Haha

I haven't read all the posts in this thread because I'm so late to the party, so maybe this has already been said. Working on your short game SHOULD be good practice for your long game.... even more so for your poor golfers. Not only will the player be working on getting better around the greens, but he should also be getting better at achieving good impact alignments. Its dual purpose and its much much easier to learn, feel, understand, etc good impact. So thats why the argument of long vs short seems like a false dichotomy. If I'm working on good impact when I'm chipping, am I only working on short game? As I've said, my answer is no. Its dual purpose and is a great lead in to long game work. Its not so black and white like some people are making it out to be. I think the best advice is work on what YOU need. When I was in the process of making big changes with my swing I was struggling to be 50-50 with my time. In fact I often dedicated a huge portion of my time to my swing. However, two days ago I spent all day on the practice greens. I maybe hit four or five shots with my 8 iron in a 6 1/2 hour session. The reasoning was I had played the day before and hit almost every fairway/green and did absolutely nothing with it. Made mistakes when I missed greens and my speed was atrocious. That short game session was what I needed. Also, I learned I need to start spending much more practice time on the course.... another piece to the puzzle.

Update on my progress (arms better in this clip, but lower body not where I want it): And an interesting look at my foot/leg work from yesterday (trying to shallow things out):

I personally would choose Frank Gasaway. Hes in McDonough I believe, so that would be just east of you. Some other good ones in ATL though.

My point wasn't about HOW they move, but WHEN they move. His shoulders don't even get to square until well after impact. Shoulders definitely need to get open faster, and for a guy that is used to having that drop move its going to feel OTT'ish when the left arm is where it should be. Maybe I should have said it differently, but oh well....

Like I said on the other forum, I would feel your DS start with your shoulders turning out. Feel like you are spinning out with your shoulders... gonna feel like you are coming OTT.

All things being equal it doesn't change a thing. However, for most people all things are not equal.

Well yea, he obviously teaches hip slide. However, he doesn't teach as much as S&T.;

Differences that I'm aware of include: Where to feel pressure in the backswing: S&T; is progressively increasing in the left foot whereas Foley likes to feel some in the right leg. Transitions are pretty much exactly the same. Set up with the driver: With S&T; weight can be more forward. Foley says weight can be more back. Basically (IMO) boiling down into a disagreement on how to preset axis tilt and why. However, I do think I've seen Mike and Andy's guys with the upper center more back than prescribed. Post impact: Probably one of the more glaring differences. Foley doesn't seem to think that post impact matters... or at least thats what I've seen from his players (arms flying off, higher rate of closure, etc). Hip slide: Foley doesn't seem to care about the hips continuing to push forward. Some of that is debatable... he has done an extremely poor job of explaining his thoughts on the swing to the public. Just some things I have picked up from watching his players and picking through some of his material.

Those weren't sound effects Michael... His swing actually sounds like a friggin rocket. I can only imagine how far that guy would hit it with some long drive black denim and The Hammer driver.

I kind of have a problem with the "no" answer. Just because someone uses video doesn't mean that they aren't "hands on." However, in regards to the original question, I'd be weary of taking lessons from someone that doesn't use video. And my answer is coming from an instructors point of view more than a students. I make that point, because as an instructor I don't really understand how anyone could tell a student that they can do what a video camera does. With a camera you can rewind and slow the video down as much as you want. You turn a 2 second swing into a 30 second swing... that can be viewed over and over again. Theres no way you can be as precise without a video camera as you can with one. Not to mention a decent camera is only going to cost you around $300, so why wouldn't you? However, that doesn't mean that Teacher A is better than Teacher B because Teacher A uses video. Theres a lot more that goes into being a good teacher. The point is more that Teacher B could be even better if he used video.

You could try opening your feet up if you haven't already. However, I haven't really run into this problem, so I can't be of much help.

Wow... now that is cold hearted.

You guys got some weird people on your list. For me its only Sabbatini, but I don't get to get my Haterade on very much considering hes not really ever in contention. That dude has always and will forever rub me the wrong way. However, I do root against Faldo and Miller all the time and they aren't even playing.

Yea, going duck foot was one of the first things I did. I can't even get comfortable the old way anymore. Concentrating more on the feel of pressure in the left foot has helped a bunch... or at least I think it has. Before I had other things on my mind and I was just thinking about it too late. And thanks Michael.

Don't know about the OP, but here is my transition. In the second video I had been at it for like 4 months, and for the most part have done it on my own. I still haven't worked with anyone in person, but had guys like Erik, iteach, etc comment on it. Going to get a more recent swing up soon, but the weather has been so hit or miss. Still working on my release and hips, but yea.. I'd say its better.

Keeping your inclination to the ground the same requires the "spine angle" to change. Thats probably the best reason for making the distinction.

Faldo's less than educated remarks have been pointed out many times. The man knows his swing to some extent, but that seems about as far as it goes.

As long as the face is closed to that path, yes.

Today they tried to break down one of Tiger's drives and I don't know who it was, but it was one of the worst ones I have ever heard. He was like, 'wow, he really has that front foot turned out.' And then was followed by some nonsense rambling where he tried to find the fault that caused the face to be a fraction of a degree open. Then Faldo was like yea, 'yea if you are going to stay that centered, you have to get behind it to swing up' (or something like that). That stuff is beyond annoying. Unless you are going to take the time to properly think about and break down someones swing, don't. It sounds like a fish out of water grasping for air. Show the super slow-mo and just enjoy the show. As others have said, they need more caddie/player interaction and better camera angles. It would be very entertaining to listen in on the conversation and then to see the actual shot. That would give so much insight to your average fan as to what is actually going on. Seeing the caddy and player just stand there talking, then a weird angle showing the player hit the shot, then some random in air angle, and then finally showing the ball land on the green is like watching a movie without sound.

The pros: Methodist has a good business school and has great practice facilities (proto pro v range balls). A few of the staff members (PGM) are amazing and you would be lucky to get to learn from them... especially if the business side is what you are interested in. The girl situation is improving thanks to the new nurses program. Also, I think there is a new president now.. and if not now there will be in the very near future (in the positives because I don't think the new guy could be any worse). Greek life is starting to take shape, but its still kind of lame at the same time. The cons: The school is over crowded. Parking was never that amazing when I was there and its probably way worse now. There are a ton of speed bumps on campus (however they did fix the potholes, so thats a plus). The food is amazingly bad. I felt the teaching side of PGM is beyond lacking. Even though the guy:girl ratio is getting better, its still atrocious (from a guys standpoint). Fayettnam is not a cool town... not even close. The people that run the school are way too uptight about a lot of things. Some facilities needed to be updated 10-15 years ago. Overall: Because I am more into teaching than being your standard golf shop pro, it wasn't worth it to me. The school is crazy expensive and I don't really feel I got much out of it. Plus, I wanted more of a college experience. When I thought of college I thought about meeting a bunch of people that I could relate with (on more than just golf), and that didn't really happen. However, if you are into the business side of things, I think it could be an amazing opportunity. The guys there are great resources and have amazing connections. If you don't mind doing lots of shop time, you can intern pretty much anywhere. They can and will get you to where you want to be if that is what you want to do. Good luck and don't be afraid to send me a pm if you have a question.

Its hard not to fall for Grant's swing... I know I'm jealous.

I'd cry too if my girl fell for a 5' scientologist nut job

Yea, I just didn't know what type of shot he was playing. Thought it might have been purposefully back.

Just because his spine is tilted towards target doesn't mean weight is on his front foot. In his case the spine tilt is created by a shift in his hips. So weight is definitely on his back foot a the top. Also, even in a "model" S&T; swing (most centered), weight is going to be on the back foot at the top thanks to the arms and club. Troy Matteson is going to be furthest left on the spectrum (weight wise), and even he doesn't display a reverse pivot. Hes left moving left, not left moving right. Also, you might want to spend some time on youtube looking at golf swings. There are lots of greats that have noticeable straightening in the right knee.