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fair point, but the fairway will still be more predictable than stiff wind, especially when hitting uphill. Even if i hit it short of the green, most of my misses will be playable; can't really say that hitting uphill.

i would be shocked if the guest fee was under $200.

i think we have the same definition of pentrating. for me, at least, a ball played back in my stance is much less likely to balloon, especially out of an uphill lie.

erik's response was kinda what I was getting at. when hitting a knockdown shot, ball position is going to affect a couple of things 1) ball flight, the further back, the more pentrating the ball flight 2) spin, the further back the more spin you impart. (which can be a huge deal on windy days.) in this situation, into a stiff wind, but uphill, there is a tradeoff. I hit a 5-iron just inside my back foot which landed just short of the green and landed on the fringe. my playing partner, hit a 5-iron (from about 15 yard closers), about pin high, but ended up in the greenside bunker becuase the wind took his slight draw and turned it into a hook.

it actually was a real situation.

incredible tempo on the golf swing. I think if you can start dropping your hands on the downswing, everything else will take care of itself. lots of the other things people are mentioned are due to the fact that you are getting a bit ahead of the ball due to the shoulder lunge. once that is corrected, everything else should correct itself.

as long as you start your downswing, by dropping your hands, good lag should come naturally. where lots of guys get in trouble is that they try to force lag and become very wristy

is there a place anywhere to get a list of hotstix licensees.

for me its as follows. 1) check alignment 2) use feet as guide on takeaway 3) easy swing, hold finish position.

wanted to see how i compared to others who post here. Here is the situation. (not sure all of the details matter, but I will give the info anyway.) Playing in 45 degree weather into about a 2-club wind. Playing to a elevated green (170 to the hole, 155 to the front edge) from a decent lie in the fairway. I decide to hit a knockdown 5-iron and run it up. For this shot, what is your ball position?

thinking of making a trip the last week of december, is scottsdale too cold this time of year?

whats the weather in Scottsdale this time of year?

yup, I liked it. thought it was good not great. I think the course would be markedly better if they put a bit more $$ in it.

several people have PMed me asking about certain public courses in IL. So I just wanted to post my replies for all. Please note that this just covers Chicagoland since I have not played that much downstate. My greens fees are estimates based on the price I usually pay. May be off $10-15 but not more than that. My Favorites 1) Pine Meadow-- Mundelein ($70) : I think this course has everything and I am shocked that they don't have more major tourneys here. I could probably write a 750 word review of the course. In great condition, some of the toughest and largest greens around and a good value especially compared to other courses around. When people come to visit, this is the one course I recommend they play. 2) Prairie Landing-- West Chicago ($80): An RTJ-links style course. great bunkering and always in good condition despite getting a ton of play. An very good course management course. I probably wouldn't recommend it for beginning because of the rolling nature hills and steep bunkering 3) Golf Club of Illinois-- Algoquin ($58) -- My favorite at this price tier. Very long prairie style golf course which usually plays VERY windy. A bit of a hidden gem and the staff there is great at managing pace of play. Only downside is that it is not very walkable and carts are HIGHLY recommended. 4) Willow Hill ($20) -- Northbrook A short 9-hole course built on a landfill. kept in good shape and a great course to sharpen your skills and work on wedge play. A great beginners course. 5) Wilmette Golf Course ($35)-- Wanted to have a public muni on the list. A good par 70 design which can play very tough from the black tees. Course definitely also forces some important course management decisions. Incredible customer service here (in stark contrast to Winnetka Golf Club) just down the street). Other good courses that I am not that high on, but deserve a mention -- I am not saying that these aren't good courses, just ones that I don't like the price value relationship on. 1) Cog Hill Dubsdread-- Lemont ($140) -- In my opinion, one of the most overrated courses around Hopefully, Rees Jones will help improve the course, but it in my opinion, it is a very vanilla bombers course, not my cup of tee. If it didn't host a PGA event, I doubt most people would even know about it. If you are going to play at Cog Hill, I'd actually recommend the Ravines course at 1/3 the price. 2) Stonewall Orchard-- Grayslake ($90)-- very nice course in good but not great shape. A bit plain in the design but but very solid. Both times I've played though, I have had major issues with customer service. 3) Dunne National ($80)-- Owned by the Cook County Forest Preserve, this used to be a great course but they haven't invested in it and it has turned into everything bad about public course. They hosted a US Open qualy this year and from what I heard it turned into a boondoggle. 4) The Glen Club-- Glenview($160)-- I think this will be on the other list in a few years after the trees grow in. Built on a former Navy base, a very nice tract with Tour quality upkeep and pristine condition. Can play incredibly tough from the tips and almost unplayable when the wind blows.

here's my list of the new public courses I played forthe first time this year.. don't think I forget any - Erin Hills (WI) (also my favorite golf course) - Purgatory (IN) - Cranes Landing (IN) - Wilmette Golf Club (IN) - Poipu Bay (HI) - Princeville (HI) - Ross Bridge (AL) - Oxmoor Valley-- Ridge (AL) - The Brute (WI)

I could get there, however, I will score much better by laying up.

definitely like the course. My parents live at Glenmore is Keswick so I have played most of the courses around there. I do think Keswick Club is a step above, just due to conditioning. I think there are lots of designed holes at Poplar and forces you to make some tough decision. My only complaint when I played (about a year ago) was that I areas around the tees and greens were a bit rough around the edges. Also, while I liked some of the hole designed (especially the short dogleg), I didn't really feel like all of the holes belonged on the same golf course.

thanks for the response. here are my answers. 1. not exactly sure where I will be moving, most likely western suburbs (minnetonka or Hopkins) 2. Ill pay up to $100-150 for a nice course if it justifies the fee. i'd also like some more everyday courses in the 30-50 range. 3. probably not an issue. i drive 45-75 minutes to all of the courses i play in chicago.

So much of this depends on the caddie. If all your caddy does is carrying the bag and clean clubs, then $8 an hour is probably a rather appropriate rate. If they do more than more $$ are obviously warranted. Over the past 5-7 years, I think the quality of caddies at resort courses has declined significantly (with Bandon Dunes and Erin Hills as exceptions).

yes. my bad.

completely agree. Talking stick is one of my favorite courses in the southwest.

As long as your have a firm left wrist at impact, the short answer is yes. That being said, it should be something you are actively trying to do, it should be the natural part of a good release. Lots of people as part of unhinging their releases, end up flipping them and create and unstable and unrepeatable swing.

spend the time you normally spend playing golf working out. Especially the core golf muscles. you will be shocked at the results.

i'd tip at least the base rate, more if they are really good, less if they aren't. Also, i'd tip a bit less if they are carrying double.

not enough info here. Specifically, where is the pin and what is the best angle to attack. How much green do you have to work with? The tougher the pin position, the more likely I am to layup. My real question is where is the easiest place to get up and down from. Depending on this, I could see myself hitting a draw to lay-up just short of the creek, hitting a draw to layup just over the creek or going for the green.