zipazoid
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Lots of good arguments here, but...just sayin'...saying that Miller is kind of a tool isn't one.
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Plumb Bobbing (Putting) Master Thread
zipazoid replied to Pinseeker81's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
The way it was shown to me, years, ago, is that the eye, ball & hole have to all be on the same vertical plane. Hang the putter straight down (if it's a flange putter, turn it 90 degrees so the toe points at the hole so it doesn't hang at an angle). Cover the ball with the putter shaft. Look up at the hole - whichever side the hole is on, it breaks that way. So I guess the "science" is having everything on on plane & having the shaft serve as the 'plumb' like surveyors do (come to think of that, if we have any surveyors here maybe they can explain...I'm just an urban planner lol). As I said earlier, I use it as a decision-maker. I read the putt in the traditional methods, but sometimes & I just can't seem to get the 'read' down that way...so I have doubt. I'll plumb-bob to just make up my mind. At times it may lead me to the wrong choice, but at least I made a choice & I can commit to a line. Which is something rather important - to commit to a line. If you have no idea which way it breaks, then it really doesn't matter where you aim, right? So I guess I would suggest to use it when needed, but not as the 'only' method to read a putt - look from behind, walk the putt, find the high point, all that stuff. If that doesn't crystallize the line in your mind, bob it. -
My wife provides an interesting perspective on the quality of a golf telecast, since she really doesn't know many of the announcers by name, but she does have her favorite players (Rory, Ricky, Sneeeedeker). At one point, she said to me, "Who in the hell is Paul Azinger?" I said why, what did he say? "He just seems a little douchey to me...ragging on the players." So I gave her a little bio on Zinger, mentioned that he overcame cancer & won again, that he was a scrappy player who loved knocking off the Greg Normans of the world. She then Google'd him & told me, "Okay...he's a cancer survivor. He's okay in my book."
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Given Fox only does one tournament a year, I thought they did pretty well. I've read a lot of people ragging on Joe Buck, but he was fine, imo. Basically stayed out of the way & didn't over-commentate. I thought Holly Sonders was basically the extension of the trend started by other networks of having a babe in a tight dress standing in front of graphics to show off her rockin' bod....sort of like the weather chicks on local TV stations. Ken Brown's bits were very informative & I like his wit. Azinger came off kind of grumpy to me, Faxon seemed a little more charitable. Loved the use of graphics, shot tracer & the like. That especially works well on a 'featureless' course like Erin Hills where it's not clear where the fairway or green was. But in all, and given it's their only golf event they do, it was fine.
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We are comparing individual rounds by two players, so I don't know what the relevance of the strength of the field would be to the debate. Whether it was a strong or weak field, a 63 is still a 63.
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All ritey then. JT's was the better round because Miller is a crotchety old fart. Guess we can close this thread now...can't refute that logic.
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His personality aside, which is irrelevant frankly, check the numbers. Check the field's scoring average. And I never said Erin Hills was easy peasy.
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So all courses are the same? No difference in degree of difficulty? Then why do we have course ratings & slope ratings? There was almost a 2-stroke difference betw field average in Miller's 63 & JT's.
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8 under at Oakmont is better than 9 under at Erin Hills. That's my take.
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When Justin Thomas fired his 63 on Saturday at the US Open, you could almost feel Johnny Miller reaching for his computer to respond. Well, he didn't disappoint, and was quick to reply, in Miller-esque fashion, that his 63 in the final round of the 1973 US Open was better - tougher course (I agree), won him the Open (obviously). We were batting it around in the US Open thread so I thought having a separate thread might be a good idea. My take - Miller's, even though it was 'only' 8 under par was superior to Thomas's 9-under 63. JT can take solace in having the lowest round in relation to par in Open history...but Miller's was still superior, if for no other reason that it won him the Open. I give points for Miller doing it in the final round, a totally different paradigm than the 3rd round. JT wasn't even leading after his 63...that's how low the scoring was on Saturday - he simply had the lowest round on a day where 65's & 67's abounded. Someone posted something to the effect of, "Yeah but Miller didn't have 600-yard par 5's to deal with or 525-yard par 4's" - Well, put a persimmon wood in today's pros hands & Balata balls for them to hit & you wouldn't have THEM dealing with 600-yard par 5's or 525-yard par 4's either - you can't give JT credit for something technology addressed decades ago. Anyway, thread started. Have at it.
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And I know some will rag on Rickie for not winning, but he would have had to shoot 66 to tie Koepka...65 if BK birdies 18. He just got run over, like everyone else.
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I honestly never thought ANYONE would get 4 shots clear...not how that leaderboard looked at the beginning of the day. Amazing performance.
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I agree, was just saying 'mathematically' he was in it. Until Koepka birdied 15...and now 16! Game ovah. Congrats to Brooks for going out & taking it.
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Or in my case, BIPSIC - Ball in pocket, sitting in cart.
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Koepka's birdie closed out Rickie. And I think it also won him the Open.
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He has to hole that bunker shot, birdie 17 & eagle 18. Or 3 under on the last 3 ties Hideki. Back totally against the wall now.
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Oh, it the tournament over? Has the trophy been awarded? It was still a good pick regardless.
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Aight. I'm now gonna remind everyone who my pick was before the tournament started, and I posted it in this thread at the beginning of yesterday's play - Hideki Matsuyama.
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Yesterday it played at 288y. Today it's 356y. The wind I'm sure is affecting it as well.
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Wow that putt by Koepka was a dead pull. Ugh.
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Which, to me, puts that 63 in its proper perspective. Which is, it was the lowest round of a low-scoring day. Dude sets an Open record with that score & he may not even finish top 10.
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I think you know what I am saying. I understand you disagree. But he asked what does everyone "think." That's what I think.
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Tournament hasn't even started yet. That's what I think.
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Rickie can still win this thing. Just birdied, 2 back. Lots of golf left.