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SupPar, how have you found your rhthym with the club? The videos with Mickelson on Callaway TV show the club travelling under ball if it is used too quickly or if your weight isn't distributed correctly.

Since Vokey has just come out with the 64 degree and Roger Cleveland has had a 64 degree for a while with Callaway I was just wondering if there was anyone out there who had some success putting a 64 degree wedge in their bag? I have been looking around the net for a while and there hasn't been too much feedback from the mere mortals having a try with this degree club.

After the round on Sunday hoping to make four work: 48, 51, 54 and the 60.

I used to own a Great Big Bertha II+ with 11* and a regular shaft and found when I went after the ball the shaft became too whippy and balls flew much too high. I found the 580 XD with the Harrison Titanium stiff shaft second hand and have found it to be a great club. Very forgiving. Shots out of the toe are penalised only a little, it gives a lot of scope for forgiveness. Smooth shots out of the centreface of the club are monsters. I really love hitting this club. It could have been a bit of luck as there was no opportunity to hit the club down the range but it just felt great. I would note that when I first started looking for clubs the bigger clubs were confronting. The TM 580 XD is 440cc and is old technology compared with some of the great new clubs now and if I were in the market I would try some of the newer models as the shaft and head matches are a lot better but then if you are comfortable with a smaller club size a large headed club may always be a little off-putting.

My understanding was that the links courses traditionally linked the sea with the land and due to the nature of the land it had no trees. As such the wind comes into play a great deal more as there is nothing to temper the speed of winds coming off the ocean making it a greater factor in the play of the course. Also I thought there is is a lot more mounding and uneven lies, making the play of the course subtlely treacherous, a seemingly good drive may have you playing the ball below your feet on a downslope of a mound. Another aspect appears to be the way the greens are connected with the fairways without thick rough surrounding the greens allowing bunp and run shots with clubs like a six iron. Obviously now the 'links' courses are constructed inland but have similar attributes to the original links courses link St Andrews Old Course. There appear to be a few other theories regarding what a links course is however this is way it has been explained to me.

I think the last post had it spot on in that you change the loft of the wedge first and maybe you consider the 17 degree hybrid. I use the 17 degree off the tee and off the fairway and the result is certainly more consistant than the 3 wood. However I imagine it all depends on whether you want that extra distance off the tee or the fairway, sounds like you don't need it?

I think this is where I lose all my strokes as my ball striking is ok it's just getting it close when I miss the green. I am trying to get some discipline to not just reach of the 60 degree and pop it up, rather to learn the advantages in the 8 iron, or even the Texas Wedge when it is called for.

I bought the TM 2 Hybrid, although that was late last year, a sweet club that has extended my expectations on ar 5s.

Completely agree with the notion that you should get fitted as I have had a similar experience here in OZ, however I bought the clubs I thought were right for me rather than being talked into it by a sales asisstant. These were a set of game improvement clubs with a reg shaft. Did not have any joy with them they didn't feel right and the offset was off putting. Ended up setting the clubs aside and organised a fitting with our club pro and wound up with a set of clubs that I wouldn't have selected but have found really improved my ball striking. It didn't take too long to be fitted and it made a huge difference especially to my enjoyment of the game.

I know it has already been mentioned but Vijay Singh used to have to sneak into the golf course to play,getting there through a sewer!! I don't think the course in Nadi, Fiji would have been much to play on and test your game compared with a place like Oakmont but he found a way. Peter U still has pressures and expectations placed on him, sure he may be cocky but the tournaments he has won didn't have his cashed up parents swinging his clubs for him. I appreciate the sentiment that rich kids have it easier in that they don't have to worry about the money side of it but surely in a land like the US, where we hear the entrepreneur is celebrated, there is a way of raising cash compared with the poverty of a place like Fiji.

I know you have just started and you are a high handicapper but how about a lob wedge? Not knowing your yardage gaps at the long end of your game this seems like an option as you have a four wood and three hybrid I would have thought the distance gaps would be covered. A lob may help from greenside bunkers and across hazards close in to the green without resorting to the dreaded flop shot. Also it would provide another full shot closer in. Some say a 58* or maybe a 60* but make sure it has at least 8* of bounce. Just another option I guess.

Yep,this is also what I am asking. The face on my 60* looks okay but I'm not sure how to tell when the grooves are no longer alright by looking at them, there may be some degree of change with the way the club performs. If someone could help give some signs of what to look for, be it performmance or physical, it would be most appreciated.

iacas I note that I have the same setup of wedges as you 48, 54 and 60, I imagine that as a single handicapper you do not have trouble with distances between the wedges. Do you have any advice for someone for dealing with distance gaps between these wedges? Do you grip an inch further down the shaft or do the Pelz method of swinging to different points on the clock? Also, how do know when a wedge has worn out? Thanks

Why not try and go the whole hog with the four wedge thing? 48* pitching wedge 200 series; 52* gap wedge 200 series; 56* SM sand wedge; 60* SM lob wedge; You'll never be left wondering whether the gaps are too large, just which shot to hit. By the way the chrome finish will be mor durable in the long term. Had I known this I might have bought my 200 series in the chrome rather than the oil can, but they do feel smoooooth!!