jfrain2004

Path was directly between ball and green. Nearest point of relief was probably the other side of path as there was only a thin slip of ground between the path and oob (small bushes on all of it) all along which the path was interfering with my stance or swing.

I was out at the wknd on a course that I had never played before in a society. My tee shot came to rest between line of golden furz bushes and cart path. I looked at the lie and figured I could advance this ball nicely down the fairway. It wasnt the bush that was bothering me but the cart path. Playing partners were high handicappers ( I'll explain why this was relevant ) and only issue they saw was the bush, not the fact that my ball was about 12" from the edge of the path right along the OOB line. They could not see how a concrete path that was almost 1ft in front of my ball could be deemed to be interfering with my swing. I have spent lot of time and money to get my swing where I am coming down on the ball with -3 or -4 Deg angle of attack and bottoming out maybe 4 to 5" in front of the ball. My club was most definitely going to catch the path. The two guys I was with couldnt grasp this and said any relief I get would be from the bush ( 1 drop shot ) and not free relief from the path which because if they were hitting it then they would have no issue with the path. ie High handicappers only see whats behind the ball, not whats in front of it. Ask a scratch golfer to hit a ball 3" infront of a concrete path. Easy, just hit it cause they are not concerned with whats behind the ball as they will be striking a descending blow. High handicapper on the other hand is going to be coming down in most cases a few inches behind the ball and will be put off by the path behind the ball. I just punched it out from where it was as didnt want to upset any one. So in short what would you have done. ?

Been told these are courses are all 6000+ so assuming most par 4s are 300+ and the par 5s are 500+. When I hear BS I have to call it out. This guy needs to be packing a game equal to or better than most guys in the bottom half of the 150-175 RTP stats to be shooting the scores I'm being asked to believe. Didn't use the keyword RTP when I was googling. Thanks @DaveP043 for that 🙂👍

Any one know where I can get stats for PGA players, specifically their average score from say 150 yards. Need to settle an argument where guy tells me his dad can play in low 70s while only driving ball ball off the tee 160 yards. He has an excellent short game in fairness but I'm thinking not PGA standard. I'm firmly in the long game camp. You can't shoot low consistently unless you driving it long, certainly longer than 160

Been trying to sharpen up distance control this year from 40 yards and in. Had a nice round going yesterday until a 5min shower of rain passed over us. Up to that point my bump and run were going the distances I have practiced them at ( always dry when I practice ) with little to no ground conditions changed with the rain, just the grass, ball and club face now wet, what was going 40 yards for me for the shots I needed up to that point were now going 50 yards plus for very similar lies, and swing length. So trying to figure out why I hit most/all my bump n run shots longer than required after the rain. Guess I will need to go practice bump n run in the rain but my theory is that the ball checks up lot less in wet conditions, firstly because I get less back spin on the ball because of wet ball and wet club face and secondly, when ball lands it will not check as much because the slippery surface even if it did have as much back spin on it as it would have if ball and club were both dry. The amount of rain it made did absolutely nothing to make the greens softer. Any thoughts appreciated

Been hearing this from my instructor and seeing it on the trackman optimiser that the ideal launch conditions for the driver is high launch with low spin. So what would actually happen if golf ball was launched at say 15 deg and had zero spin and initial ball speed was say 150mph. How would it compare to say 2500rpm with all other parameters the same

As my coach says don't guess what you can measure. Get yourself shotscope and then you'll see where you are really coughing up the shots against golfers of similar abilities. Them darts over the green that you blame on your short game might not be an issue with better approach shots or more distance off the tee.

Have yo yoed between week, neutral,strong grips the past few years and never got consistency across short pitch shots through to full swing with driver. Weak grip gave me reliable contact and nice ball flight with 50 yard to 100 yds pitch shots but just couldn't make it work on full swing. Strong grip gives me great distance and contact on full swing but more than the occasional chunk shot on short pitch shots costing me double bogey or worse whenever it happened. Then it dawned on me, why not just use weak grip for pitch shots, less shaft lean and more of a brushing the turf swing, and then on full swing use as strong a grip as possible for more distance and better contact. Results have been mind blowing. Such pity it's close season as track man numbers are right where I want them to be. Any one else with dual grip thing going on?

I use shotscope and find that is a big down side to it. I'm pretty consistent with my irons but I'm one of those golfers that uses all my irons around the green, depending on how much carry or roll a particular chip shot requires. I find myself having to edit a round afterwards and mark all my chip shots as using gap wedge as it throws off otherwise good stats on how long I hit my irons. 5 flushed 9 irons raging from 135 to 145 makes for a nice average of around 140. But 5yrd green side chip with my 9 iron then reduces my 9 iron average to around 115.

Are duff shots counted in average driving distance stats. I mean if you hit your first 9 shots down the middle for average of 250yrds, but then top your 10th and it goes all of 1yrd then is your avg driving distance now 2250/10 = 225 yards?

Another thing I think that makes guys think its all about the short game is they see the pros make it look so easy that they themselves ( My bro included ) think that they can put it inside 20ft from 100 yrds out if they just had time to " practice a bit more ". Now if I could just get it on the fairway, even if its only a 150yrds drive, then my great short game will see me putting for birdie. No one looking at the build and swing of Jon Rahm on a par 5 is going to go home, start benching 100kg, dead lifting 200kgcause tjhey think they going to drive the ball the way he does. But they far more likely to look at him 60 yrds out, stopping her dead 6ft from the hole, and think, yea, I could do that.

Just read Mark broadies book and finished 2nd season with shot scope. All the stats point to what the book told me. It's all about the long game. Got down to 3.5 during the year ( back to 6 now )and only practiced and took lessons on long game. Previous years I would prob have biased my practice on short game. Shot scope still tells me v a scratch golfer that I'm coughing up 4 shots with long game while 100 yards in is costing me 1.5 shots, and putting sees me lose another 1 stroke. Even with the stats staring me in the face I can't convince the bro that if he wants to get from 20 to single digits that is the long game he needs to sort. His stats telling him v a single digit capper that he's giving up 7 shots on the long game and just 3 on short game but refuses to believe. What's is the general consensus on the mark broadie shots gained method of analysis?

Its the performance and feel of them. Get lots of spin and hence control in approach shots. Very easy to hit. You think their iron equivalent would not tick the same boxes?

Got a set of 3 of the callaway MAck Daddy wedges and love them. So much that thinking of replacing my taylormade irons with Callaways. Question is which irons best match the feel, look and performance of the Mack Daddy wedges? I do like the Rouges and could be tempted to buy them. Havnt tried any other Callaways.

I have a swing speed of 89mph for my 4 iron as per trackman with total carry of 185 avg. I have guys ofter ask me where my 3 iron is but I tell them my 3 iron carry distance is at best equal to my 4 iron because I dont have the head speed to get it airborn for any longer with the lower loft. 2 iron is a lot less carry. So 4 iron is effectively my cut off iron. One guy in particular I play with doesnt buy into the physics behind launch angle and launch speed and why you have a certain loft after which you start to lose distance because of this. If a lower loft iron always sends the ball further then we would all be hitting 0 deg irons and sending the ball into the next timezone. What I have been trying to get on the internet is a chart/graph showing the carry v iron for different max head speeds of different golfers. Any one know of any site that might have this?