Robster 7

A great idea for keeping the swing going in the winter but as divot dave said, you are hitting from perfect lies everytime just like at the driving range so i wouldn't take too much from it. Good for making swing changes though if you are getting good numbers from a Trackman or similar.

A lot of the stats we get are fairly useless in isolation. The PGA Tour stats are immense, I would love to get those on my game. How many strokes gained tee to green, putts from 3ft, 6ft, 10ft etc. now those are useful. If you tell me I had 25 putts, that might just mean I had a good day chipping but those other stats are real eye openers. Bubba Watson has made 214 of his last 217 putts inside 5ft, now that's something I would like to know but unfortunately we don't have shotlink! Most of us can't get through a round keeping that stat intact!

When I hit a lot of greens, I always go home thinking my putting is crap! :)

At that level, if he lays up to his best yardage, he's probably got just as much chance of getting up and down as going for it and ending up buried in the greenside rough (like Jason Day ). He did what he thought was best and that way he gets into the playoff at worst, if he didn't get into the playoff then yes you can question his decision making.

The majority of the time, I don't keep score consciously if it's not a comp. I know roughly where i am but I think we get too hung up on scores all the time and it takes enjoyment away. We play a lot of matchplay in the winter which gives a nice break before we're back into medal season.

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I've tried all the decent balls over the years but have always gone back to ProV1. I spent a whole year with Srixon Soft Feel because I got a load cheap and had a lot of raised eyebrows from my friends because of it. It didnt affect my scores at all once I learned to play certain shots differently. I've gone back to ProV1 now because it just offers that little bit more short game control and they are much more durable than they used to be. I played one recently for eight rounds (not competition rounds) and I didn't notice much difference in performance as it degraded.

I try not to give swing advice but in the spirit of how this was posted by a qualified pro, I'd say he needs to relax his posture and ensure the clubhead doesn't get behind his hands on the takeaway. Needs to maintain flex in right knee too. Just stick the cheque in the post. ;-)

Buy some decent waterproofs and man up!

I tried the Ping S59's and just couldn't get on with them. They just felt very clunky to me. I really wanted to like them too because I thought they looked smart. If I change my AP2's, I would consider Mizuno next because I loved my old set of TP 9's and their forged irons usually come out in the top three of any test.

I've never like the feel of cast clubs but it's personal preference I think. I've been using the Titleist AP 2's for about 4 years now and I love em!

I know! What a very very wealthy fool! :-D

You'd better let this major winner know ;-)

I suppose stats are a bit like the score on a scorecard, they don't tell the entire story. I might try that site though- cheers!

Yeah I suppose that would work too. One of my old pros didn't let his beginners hit full shots until they had learned how to putt, chip and pitch first. Something to do with the progression of the swing. Far too sensible for my little brain to comprehend as I was a grip it and rip it merchant for years!

Haha, I'm not sure we can take it anymore aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh! :-D

Maybe get a solid short game first because it's easier to work on, then put the majority of practice into long game. How's that for a compromise?;-)

It may be a fact for your game but it might not be for someone else. For the record I think it's more important too but it's not a fact. Lee Westwood is one of the best ball strikers in the game but his short game is shocking so his reality will be different.

Exactly my point David!

http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/9638664/caddies-belong-world-golf-hall-fame This probably encompasses everything we've discussed

Well not really. Its just the opinion of the majority and the majority opinion doesn't make something fact. The world was flat years ago apparently.

Haha yes mate and mine!

This is an intersting thread. I wish I kept stats because it would be useful to measure against those of a similar standard and those who are better than me. I may start doing it. The only other thing that would be interesting to see would be how many time a week do you practice(off course).

Poor old caddies eh! They get the blame when the players get it wrong and none of the credit when it all goes right. No wonder they tend to like a drink! :)