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All news thusfar seem to point to: -Putin supporting terrorist / criminal groups in Ukraine with heavy weapons -Russian forces are currently mobilizing and transporting tanks to the Rus-Ukr borders. News seem to point towards oncoming invasion of east-Ukraine. -Crimean landgrab, earlier, was organized by infiltrated Russian mercenaries and Russian special forces. With heavy-backing from Russian federation (such as war equipment straight from Russian warehouses and armories, and communications too) -Crimean election results seem to have been frauded. No oversight of the elections existed. And it was conducted under Russian election observers and unmarked (though still) Russian gunmen. This definitely seems to go against the Russian's previous policies. Their policy has changed, this much is certain by now. Even if America doesn't want a new cold war. It seems that Putin is now pushing for revenge from his own corner so to speak. Previously the Russians argued against US-Iraq war, and also the legality of Kosovo independence. Now the Russians seemingly no longer care, and just invade and grab pieces of land from other countries. Essentially threatening with war, I suppose... I know that Obama's red lines so far, have been perhaps less than credible. But there must be red lines, actual red lines which will not be crossed... Let's hope Putin won't stick his nose into Eastern Europe (nato) in the next round...

My dad said that he's hitten 300+ yard drives when he played against his boss (CEO of the company) on some Italian golf course. I wasn't there of course so I didn't see it myself My dad is close to 60 years of age so that's quite good for him I think. If my dad practiced more with his irons, I think he wold lower his hcp even further down. His short game and putting are quite excellent but he still has these meltdown holes and difficult shots from the rough, it seems.

In my opinion, you slightly underrate total distance vs max carry. Yes there are advantages of max carry, but try to see the forest for the trees... Sure, max carry is very nice over water etc... but max carry + roll is also very nice in most golf courses . Many golf courses are not flat, nor do all golf courses rely on forced-carries with a driver. At the end of the day, with max carry, I think you have usually less roll . This is because of the descent angle for ball, is different usually, between, max carry vs max carry +roll. It certainly depends on the conditions, weather, and the course design. So what if you get good rolls? It's not SINFUL or anything like that!!! You play the ball from where it lies. Therefore extra rollouts are always welcome for driver.

For heavier loads, pushing should be one of the most effective (the least straining) mode of transporting something... That's why e.g. logistic workers use those push carts to transport stuff from the back of the van, to the grocery store for example. All about worker safety and workers rights in my country! Finland I use push cart, for my bigger regular golf bag, because I carry more stuff in it. I do have a smaller bag which is specifically a carrybag, which is nice also. It feels very light to carry on your back also, it has a good strap-system like a backpack and two folding legs so you can set it up. Useful golf stuff... -rain clothes, -rain- and normal golf gloves, -extra clothe layer, in case it's very windy and cold -balls, -tees, -divot tool, -ball marker, -rulebook, -pen, -rangefinder (in the future I will buy one, for sure!) -scorecard (it's safe and secure in the golfbag pocket!) -knife (to cut the sports tape in case you use it) -sports tape -golf clubs (can't forget these!) -club cover pieces (annoying if you forget these at the last teebox!)

what is the relevance, of the two different options, btw? does the upright lie or flat lie change ballflight? Obviously impact conditions are the most important for sure, but I think if you stand too close to the ball (shaft angle between ground and shaft too upright) it could be a difficult swing. I suppose it all relates to the D-plane mechanic of the golf swing, correct? So it depends on the ball position and the d- plane

Truth be told, I agree with you. The guy said that he was a good golfer. He said that he's been to regional long drive contests and performed adequately. I respect his playing competency. It's just that I didn't exactly get my money's worth of stuff from 120e (or bucks,) He didn't address my concerns adequately either, and he gave nothing to work on for future.

The problem is... how to learn better ballstriking? At least for me as a high handicapper. In all other sports I play badminton tennis floorball weightlifting etc, the instructor actually instructs me , he tells me what to do, he tells me how to do it. Like tennis for example, it's simple enough. Teach the student. You know when you've hit a good shot, and when you've hit a bad shot. I took frigging golf lessons last week. (50e /h) The guy didn't fix my slice. I told the instructor about my flightscope numbers, out-to-in path and open clubface. I did everything in my power to help him, teach me . I told the instructor that I'm a raw beginner at golf, only started last autumn short season with a couple golf rounds. One lession prior to this. And I told him all the details about my swing and shots etc... And I tried his suggestions for my swing (he only had one suggestion, hit the ball harder with the right hand like Ben Hogan talked about), but I still slice the ball. I still slice from midirons to driver, all clubs except wedges and putter. I was trying out different setup for my driver, alone at the range. Ball outside my left foot, and slightly closed stance, this is the only way I can hit straighter balls with my driver it seems. (but I would like to learn in-to-out path, since it seemingly gives more powerful shots than my current out-to-in path) Do you guys suggest that I should play conservatively and teeoff with a pitching wedge? Use only pitching wedge and putter on par5?

What's your guys' opinions on the matter? What should be done? What has been done? How do you feel about it, are you in actual danger or close to it, because of the crisis?

In actuality... the answer is no... Behind us, was a large gap. Either that group was slow or just there wasn't that many golfers out there that day overall. But I get your point. I think in the future we will take shorter breaks definitely. So that the slowing down don't happen, incase the course is busier. Ian Poulter said in some video that he always recommend recharging the energy level during golf, eating snacks etc... He uses some kind of tablets, so he says. With nutritional supplaments in them. I suppose drinking a recovery drink would be ideal though, for performance. To replenish the nutrients and also re-hydrate. Liquids tend to absorb in shorter time also.

I never claimed that this was your strategy. It was simply for clarification purposes. Because some other people were opining, that this would be a drivable par4. I should have written my post more clearly in the passive tense, because I meant it in the passive tense, towards everybody interested. You said that the distance was 238m 260 yards along that arc, to the tree at the fairway, (from the tee, towards the tree) And when you stretch that arc rightwards, across the lake, you can only barely clear the water, so if anybody was going for the green. They'd have to be longhitter with 270 yards carry, safe on the fairway. Then they have short lob shot / chip, and one putt for birdie.

with better chips and lob shots, and better putts, I would break 100 for sure... I think... But not get much below that without better ballstriking. But for more consistency, I agree also that I gotta try to get rid of topped shots, and get rid of fat shots somehow. These really kill your score. You advance the ball about 20 yards with a topped or duffed shot, afterall... I get less penalty shots these days, but more of these "wasted shots" around the greens and sand (not even particularly difficult bunker, sometimes I just get stuck in, can't get out to the green). Sometimes I just thin hit, the ball from the sand, sending it wayoff in the distance, LOL I can't just get up on the green sometimes with wedge / chip (If I barely hit short of the green, or roll slightly off the green at the back) So I'm often looking at "difficult" chip shots or putts from the foregreen/ rough...

If you are reading that correctly, then it seems that you must be a longhitter if you want to cut the dogleg like the course designers intended (carry over the small lake) To carry over the small lake , you gotta hit minimum approx. 270 yard CARRY from short tees. (assuming that, the specific tree you mentioned, is about 260 yards from the short tees). Assuming that you are aiming for the "pointy corner" of the small lake, closest portion of the lake towards the green, I know, the distances are exactly speaking 261 yards to carry over the small lake , but to land comfortably IN fairway, AND carry over the small lake, it must be about 270 yards to carry to be safe.

YES, you have to "skyball" a little bit with your teeshot in my estimation. If you want to hit directly to the green, cutting the entire hole with a straight shot, you have to hit a fairly high altitude shot (presumably to maximize carry distance) There is a hill with some trees, directly between the green and the teebox, in my estimation. The green is not visible from any of the teeboxes. But even so, if you were a longhitter, strong fade with driver would still fly above any trees and land in the fairway. For drivable par4, the distance to the green's center is 317 yards (290m). So, If you can carry ball in air with driver, 317 yards, you are in the green in one shot. Rough on the right is penal, balls can be lost easily. Green is not visible at all, from the teeboxes. Any of them. (hill blocks the view). But if you are a longhitter, then you can carry the ball from the short tees, over the small lake, for sure. (puts you in good wedge shot position) Sadly I'm not exactly sure how much yardage is needed to carry over that small lake, from short tees, the picture looks too smudgy. The actual physical placards which show the hole information, are better and bigger at the course, but I don't have any bigger pictures at the moment.

I think the basics of golf are accuracy and power. It seems that moe norman definitely had the accuracy part nailed down, which is quite spectacular in its own way. Jamie Sadlowski or someone longhitter like him probably favours the other side of the equation so to speak. As a beginner though, it boggles my mind to think how the longhiters are able to strike the ball so well... so well hit balls. Some of the more accurate long driver competitors... the're hitting actually 9/10 balls into the grid. I just watched today some old videos about bobby wilson in senior division long drive 2009 event... That oldie, was really bombing it, and accurately too into the grid! I think he would have been in the fairway/semirough at a real golf course...

My pga instructor told me, that I gotta minimize the effects of miss shots to improve scores, strokes gained if you will... I don't get very many penalty shots anymore per round, but these mishits are just critical failure for the score. (especially if all mishits are occuring on the course) The problem sofar is that I'm hitting following miss shots: -thins -topps -fats -slices -push slices It feels like I gotta minimize some of these off the list so to speak. Then it's just a question of tweaking the swing it seems. But, I got a groin injury sadly this week from golf. So it takes two weeks healing time until golf again and it frigging painful to even walk even with the doc's pain medications...

Red tee close. Im usually scared about driver on the first hole (miss shot is push slice or slice) Red tee is flat with fairway. All other tees have elevation higher.

1st hole par4 has been quite hard to play for me! (those first tee jitters) SOME NOTES ABOUT HOLE: -distances in meters. -preferrably some kind of tactic from short tees. -the dogleg is seemingly difficult to cut, slices could impact the elevated hill on the right side of the hole. Push shots to the right will also disappear into the right side rough. -the elevated hill with trees is approximately to the right of the small lake (can't fly over that thing unless you're a huge hitter, in my estimation, because of trees and hill) -there are small thicket of trees, between the thin water hazard and the small lake. This area is flatter, but hitting the trees can cause bad bounces into water. -pull slice, or long-hitted straight slice will be successful, I think. A high altitude fade or high altitude straight shot might cut the dogleg, clear across water and land in play. -Right side rough is penal across entire hole, you will lose balls in the bushes over there. Left side rough is also penal, but right side is just nightmare. -Green is quite tilted uphill, judging from fairway. If you overshoot green, prepare for nightmare downhill putts.

Damnit I tore some muscle in my rightside groin so it's two weeks healing time. It must have come from golf.

haha great stuff about the baseball analogy! When I played the finnish variant of baseball I was always throwing max power like a baseball pitcher would have thrown. in the finnish variant of baseball, the pitcher isn't pitching the ball at the striker, but he's throwing ball upwards for the striker to hit it (just like a tennis throw) but otherwise in that game, it is beneficial for the out-team, to have fast and accurate throws and catches, so they can burn the runners at the bases. And the pitcher has to throw good balls at the basemen, so they can burn the runners.

we stayed within pace of play rules of the local golf club though. Golf course wasn't seemingly that busy either on that day.

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Stableford is the official scoring method for handicap in my country that's why. Matchplay for example are not eligible scorecards for handicap. Only eligible scores are stableford scoring. And it makes your score look better, wasted holes don't drag your score down. instead you just get 0 points for that hole. I suppsoe, it could promote more aggressive playing though. (you don't really get penalized that much for mistakes in stableford score, where as standard strokeplay everry stroke is equal value in the scorecard)

lol I was hitting some golf shots with my feet together, for a drill... I was hitting balls better, almost equal distance and better accuracy with my feet and legs together. This with 7 iron. It sounds like I gotta use the legs correctly in the golf swing...?

I just don't get it, do I? What's the problem of ordering a hotdog from the golf course hot dog shack? It's outside, next to the 10th tee at my local course. Not everybody orders the hotdogs but I just don't see the big issue here. It sounds like ya'll make mountain of a molehill. At my local course, we asked our fourball members, "do we want to eat snack after 9th" all said yes. Then we eat the snacks and relax for a minute or so. we saw the group behind us, sneack past us, and teeoff. Then we went after them into the slot so to speak. If everybody is being a "turbo-speed-golfer" why don't you all from both two groups, teeoff at the same time? That way, assuming two fourballs are about to go in to the 10th tee after snack, all players teeoff and the longest hitters start playing forward to the green. Then the shorter hitters hit forwards etc... Just remember to use unique balls for each other in this example, otherwise hilarity will ensue!!! -We played the fourball in 4 hrs 20 min. -time includes searches for balls, as by the rules -course was about medium difficulty -time includes the snack break (probably 10min, from putting at 9th, to the ending of snack and teeing-off at 10th) -course was actually a very long walk, overall. The holes were quite a bit seperated from each other, therefore there was more walking between teebox and green. -yardage was 6350 for the more experienced players in our fourball. As a beginner golfer I played only 5500 yard. -course was hilly terrain, not exactly flat, it's maintained in a wintertime skiing resort property. -course was a longer walk primarily because it was designed with two courses intermixed between each other, at my local golf club. So, there are two courses at the property running through each other.

dang I actually shot again 108... last weekend. That being said I quit the first hole. So no stableford points or strokes recorded on that one. But the course was somewhat difficult I suppose. Actually the weather conditions were horrible on that day. Massive counter-wind against our shots, unpredictable crosswinds. I almost lost my hat to the wind breezes!!! Second day, totally new course, I shot 119. I got stableford points from 16 holes out of 18 so it was good steady pace for gathering those stableford points. My putts didn't go exactly so well. The only good putting I can do is from short ranges. I was able to make bogeys and pars like that, on several holes, by making good wedge shot, and good putt closer to the hole, and tap-in putt. I was occasionally in the forests with my driver slices, searching the ball, but on the other occasions, I was in the fairway and long with my driver so it wasn't only slice-city !!! one ball in davy jones' locker and two balls OB driver. I was also overshotting the greeens with wrong club selection in my wedges. Sometimes undershooting the green with wedge straight into bunker LOL.