We played behind a 4some last month at our home course. We kept noticing the green being marked up. Wasn't really paying attention but noticed the footprint and definitely spike marks. My bud has a pair, last year model white/red.. He changed the spikes to the spider soft spikes and they didn't leave any scuff marks on the greens. The spike that come on them are super stiff and the smallest foot drag will rip a green up. I wear footjoy and use the spider soft spikes as well, I know a few people in our area that just got the footjoy DNA and love them. To me and my opinion only, the footjoy shoes are the best and most comfortable to me. The addidas look great but just not comfortable.