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Hi Guys, I have done alot of work on my swing over the past few months and have gone from a pull draw to the occasional block slice, this happens most often with my Driver off the tee and my 3 wood from the fairway. What are the main causes of a block slice ? (this is the shot that starts right, slices right, and goes a very short distance)

He said he bombed his drive which to me means he did'nt expect to hit into the group in front but on reflection felt he should have waited. I have had this happen to me from both perspectives, I was once 270 yards out no hope in hell of hitting the green and must have hit something and the ball trickled up through the green, the guys were quiet gracious. I have been on the fairway when a ball landed nearby from nowhere. I don't worry about it the first time but if the group behind it does it a second time I would certainly say something.

can you please clear up for me how torque = leverage ? I thought these are totally independant of each other and the only way to supply more power is by either more torque or more leverage ? I did'nt go to school long enough for the modern golf swing.

why would you want run if you have enough length ? I use a 9.5 hit it fairly high with a fade so that I don't get alot of run. Alot more control when the ball does'nt go rolling around the golf course.

I know for myself, when I go for it I can still hit it solid but just offline, or sometimes too far into the rough, it would certainly be interesting to look at the pro stats for length of drives that are offline. what I should have said more clearly as an average a 2-iron off the tee will bring down the overall dramatically ie. 4 X 300 yards + 1 X 200 yard average is 280 yards. One of my major faults is I hate target golf and tend to hit driver on every hole (also trying to knock the socks off it)

By measuring only drives in the fairway I think that would reduce the average distance as you are more likely to be errant when you pull out the stops and go for it. oh and their stats include their 2-Iron, 3-wood etc tee shots.

I do hit it 300 yards quiet regularly, just not often on the fairway, pro driving stats are only for those that find the fairway

the form of energy is changed not used, eg. electric energy used through a resistive load is changed into heat.

it would only start left if his swing path was over the top, it is physically impossible for it to start left if his path is straight and clubface is open.

alignment causes a slice if your feet are open and your sholders are closed simple as that, he never used to have a fitness program and hit it straight, so why would that fix it now ?? following your theory of things always stay the same. and a fade IS caused by an open club face with a straight swing path. initial launch is dictated by swing path, tail end is caused by clubface position.

Alignment, now that could be a cause, does'nt matter what level you are conditioned to if you don't align straight. just one example of many

Non-competition rounds I use Ram Tours that I bought for $1 NZD (.60 cents US) and are a great cheap option. Competition rounds I use the NXT-tour a nice balance between control and distance. Only problem with playing titliest is everyone else does and I'm always afraid when I miss my fairway someone else will hit my ball even with the markings.

During the season muscles are used on both sides of the body and the swing promotes an increase in flexibility. Yes an over the top move is a symptom, but a symptom of many things not just in-flexibiltiy.

unlikley to be over the top if it starts straight, over the top will start left, like mentioned previous, start with the fundamentals first. One other thing to try is swing a little easier, could just be a little bit of lost timing.

I approach my short Irons differently, I am usually deadly from 150 yards in, my sole focus during my swing is my hand location, where ever my hands are in my swing is where the ball is going to go. I practise once a week for a couple of hours just focusing on feeling where my hands are.

We are lucky in New Zealand, course membership costs me $720 per year, $480 for those under 27, $230 for those under 23. Golf gear I have'nt changed for a long time but am currently scouting out models 2-4 years old. Great value and not that old.

LOL, I also had 3 birdies on the back nine, as well as one tripple and two double bogeys. 3 birdies - down wind, the disasters = upwind/crosswind.

we had strong winds yesterday too, I hit Driver 6 Iron into a 500 meter (550 yard) par 5 and felt like a god. Next hole 308 meter (340 yards) par 4 and was short after driver 3 wood felt like a mortal again.

There is something to be said for consistancy

He talks about an "on" plane swing not a one plane swing. I found personally the feeling of trying to swing the hands under my chin helped me to cure my over the top move.

Springfield GC. New Zealand (lots of trees and tight fairways, some as narrow as 17yards) This is for Blue Tees which we play Saturday Golf from. 1st - 267 Meters (295 yards) Par 4, 9th rank in difficulty. Tight Fairway Bunker 240 meters out right hand side with a dogleg left. Driver Pitch/Chip (followed usually by a 3 putt) 2nd - 142 Meters (155 yards) Par 3, 17th rank in difficulty. Big green guarded by two bunkers front left and right. 8 Iron 3rd - 397 Meters (437 yards) Par 4, 1st rank in difficulty. Dogleg left, Large green guarded by pot bunker right hand side. Driver 4-8 Iron (depending on drive and wind conditions) 4th 137 meters (150 yards) Par 3, 13th rank in difficulty. Long narrow green with river and bunker on left hand side, tall trees left hand side. 7-9 Iron depending on pin location 5th 330 meters (363 yards) Par 4, 3rd rank in difficulty. Sharp dogleg right from about 260 meters to a narrow two-tiered green raised 20 meters. Bunker left hand side of green. Driver 9 Iron or Wedge (blind) or Driver into heavy trees right hand side Punch 4 Iron Sandwedge (blind) 6th 473 meters (520 yards) Par 5, 7th rank in difficulty. Tight Dogleg left 180 meters out from Tee. Long narrow two tiered green, river left hand side. Driver 3 wood pitch/chip rarely putt 7th 447 meters (492 yards) Par 5, 15th Rank in difficulty. Short tight par 5 with bunkers left and right side of green. Driver 3 wood / 5 wood Chip/Putt/Bunker shot 8th 378 meters (416 yards) Par 4, 5th Rank in difficulty. Tight fairway, large green with bunker guarding front right hand side. Driver 6-8 Iron 9th 181 meters (200 yards) Par 3 11th rank in difficulty. Very Large two tiered green, bunker and OB left hand side. 3-5 Iron 10th 377 meters (415 yards) Par 4, 2nd Rank in difficulty. Very tight driving area, up to a very narrow green raised 20 meters Driver 7-8 Iron (blind) 11th 460 meters (505 yards) Par 5, 16th Rank in difficulty. OB Right Bunker front centre of large two-tired green. Slight dogleg left. Driver 3 Wood (blind) Chip/Pitch or Driver 5 Iron Sandwedge 12th 170 meter (187 yards) Par 3, 14th Rank in difficulty. Narrow two tiered raised but very long green, bunker front right. 3-7 Iron (depending on pin placement) 13th 306 meters (337 yards) Par 4, 10th rank in difficulty. Very narrow driving area, dogleg right, with large easy green. Driver Pitch/Chip 14th 355 meters (390 yards) Par 4, 6th rank in difficulty. Narrow driving area, dogleg right, undulating green. Driver 8 Iron (always pull it left as approach is uphill) Chip 15th 331 meters (365 yards) Par 4, 8th rank in difficulty. Wide driving area with stream running across fairway 15 meters short of green. Pot bunker guards right hand side of green. Driver Gap Wedge 16th 192 meters (211 yards) Par 3, 12th rank in difficulty. Bunkers left and right of smallish green 5 Wood or 3 iron Chip/Bunker shot/putt 17th 388 meters (427 yards) Par 4, 2nd rank in difficulty. Long uphill, green has severe drop offs left, right and rear. Driver 6-8 Iron Usually miss left and have a blind pitch shot in. 18th 269 meters (295 yards) Par 4, 18th rank in difficulty. Bunkers guard front left and right with a 5 meter gap into green. Driver Pitch/Bunker Shot and occasionally putt for second.

Thanks for the Info

I am looking at this set of Irons, can anyone give me any feedback ?? WILSON DEEP RED TOUR II IRONS 3 - SW CONDITION: EXCELLENT 9.0 OUT OF 10 SHAFT FLEX: REGULAR SHAT TYPE: DYNAMIC GOLD GRIPS: WILSON BRANDED CORD A TOP SET OF IRONS. HARRINGTON USED THESE WHEN WINNING HIS FIRST BRITISH OPEN. TOUR PLAYER DESIGN & LOOK, WITH THE FORGIVNESS OF A GAME IMPROVEMENT IRON, NICE TOP LINE, NO UGLY BULKY LOOK. GREAT BALL FLIGHT, FEEDBACK & FEEL. MOST IMPORTANTLY PLENTY OF ZIP OF THE CLUB FACE GIVING EXCELLENT DISTANCE.

I am after some players Irons, like I say 2 - 3 seasons old, something that I can use down to a 3 handicap (which I am working really hard towards).

first thing I would check is ball positon, with a steeper angle of attact position it back in your stance.