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Another vote for the iGolf Neo. Front Back and Center is all I need. It gives you options for up to 4 custom defined points so you can set up for hazards and such if necessary. For me the price and no need to pay a yearly fee is great. They have nearly every golf course in my area and the one small par 3 course I mapped in one round myself and now I don't have to worry about it in the future. Josh F. PS. Also as already mentioned, you can track the distance of your shots with it, although you can't save them for future reference.

The origins of sagging pants came from poor families(ie. inner city minorities) that often handed down clothes from cousins, brothers, fathers. Many can't afford new belts for each kit so some kids end up with their brothers 2 sizes to big pants. Over the years this developed into an easily distinguishable part of being from the ghetto. As many of these things, what once was a sign of poor has now been adopted by many through music and tv/movies as a fashion style. When I was growing up, I often had clothes 1 to 2 sizes to big as I inherited 90% of my clothes from cousins, garage sales, or goodwill. Yes, I swam in my shirts and had baggy/saggy pants, but now days appreciate a well fitting suit. I could care less what someone on the golf course wears if they are respectful to the course. I can tell you, had someone gotten me into golfing at a young age, I probably could have avoided much of the trouble I found for myself. Regardless, what someone wears or chooses to look like is not an extension of the quality of person they are, even if some wish it to be. I've met great golfers that were dressed to the top and others that showed up after working construction on some gaslines near by. They've all been respectful and great partners. Thank god for Iowa and their down to earth approach to life. end rant/ Josh

I chose 3i cuz I don't have a hybrid, but that would only be if I was being aggressive. Normally, I would play something like a 7i which I'm confident in and get it out there to a nice half swing 56* wedge shot. I'd play it as a bogey hole and possibly get close on the wedge for an easy par putt. My long clubs are not real reliable, and I'd hate to hit a scorching slice that goes 200 yds but ends up on the next fairway over. I'd rather mitigate my risk and play the clubs I know I can hit with more consistency. Josh F.

I have a Grom, and find that it is quite comfortable walking. I simulated losing a couple pounds by taking out a couple clubs, and although noticable, I don't think it would make any difference walking. As a cart bag, I think it works great as well, so that's a bonus. I'm 27, 5'10" 165 and moderately in shape.

Thanks for the link. Some of that stuff doesn't look half bad... Josh

This is a battle that will never end. My opinion is that they both serve their purposes. GPS can be used when line of site to the location you are hitting is not available. However GPS usually requires subscription fees, there can be times when you lose signal from satellites(rarely for most), and they are usually accurate within a few feet(some better than others.) Than with rangefinders you have very exact distances. However the line of site issue can be bothersome. I found most were significantly larger than my igolf neo also. If it was possible, I'd like to have both for different situations but I chose the gps cuz it fit my game/courses better. Josh F.

Another vote for the iGolf Neo. You get Front, Center, Back of the Green, along with up to 4 customizable locations per hole. Not many need more than that. The price is very reasonable, the maps are yours to keep, you pay $35 for 1 year or 100 maps. Do it once and you can get nearly every course you are likely to play and they are yours for ever. You can plot your own course, check distances that you hit the ball. And it is all in one small simple package. If money wasn't a concern the SkyCaddie's are neat, but are more than I need. Josh F.

I would say lessons than fitting. Lessons to build a good swing. Then once you have a swing you can repeat, go to the fitter and get fitted for your swing. Being fitted for an inconsistent/poor swing will only lead to needing to be fitted again when you get lessons and improve your swing. Likely your swing speed will increase and you'll have a better understanding of what you want for kickpoints, trajecory, etc... Josh F.

I completely understand that some people are comfortable in the polo shirt. Heck, I have a few company golf polo shirts(adidas) that we give to accounts. They are comfortable and I do wear them. My issue is with the mandating of it at the municipal/public level. Semi-Private and Private courses are different in my mind. People pay dues to expect a higher level of class. The Muni, where it's $25 a round, I could care less. Also, organized sports, whether on the local level or higher are different then the weekend duffer who likes to go out and spend 4hours outside relaxing while playing a round of golf. I don't know about where you are located, but here the local adult slow pitch soft ball leagues, you'll find guys in shorts and a tee shirt with their team logo on it playing ball. Sure they have a uniform, however it has very little to do with the history of the game and more to do with knowing who is on who's team. I won't argue that people can find comfortable "nice" clothing. I will argue that people should not be forced to wear the comfortable "nice" clothing that you want them to. I've seen people out on the course in nice jeans, and a button up shirt. However many on here look at denim as the devil. My question is who cares and why. It doesn't affect my play and as long as he's having fun, great! Josh

At the professional level, I have no problem with a dress code. Same as I agree with the dress codes in football, baseball, & basketball. Their is a certain amount of professionalism you are expected to hold yourself to when being paid to play any sport. However, I am not required to were a basketball uniform to play a pickup game down at the YMCA, or a football jersey/pants/helmet to play a game of football on Thanksgiving with my Uncles/Cousins. I think this is where some people get confused. Not everyone who enjoy's golf is prospecting to become a pro or even amateur golfer. They do it in their spare time for fun and enjoyment. I would never say that there should be a rule that you aren't allowed to wear dress clothes on the golf course any more than I would ban cargo's or jeans etc. You wear what makes you comfortable, I'll where what I feel comfortable in(assuming it is appropriate, no swear words, exposed privates, etc). Josh

Exactly my sentiments. I can respect the fact that some people like to dress nice to play. And that is great for them. I would much rather play with the person who is friendly, respectful, and follows ettiquette regardless of what they wear. Hell, I'd play with someone wearing the Borat singlet if they were respectful, and I'd probably laugh and have a good time too. Josh

I enjoy Disc Golf as well. However, it sickens me that someone feels that because $100 may be a significant amount of money to someone that they should disregard playing a game that they enjoy. I started playing golf with a hand me down set of clubs, and cheap balls. I wore jeans, basketball shorts, t-shirts, whatever. I played on smaller Par-3 courses and learned how to repair by ball marks and clean up after myself. I learned how to be careful walking on greens with my hand me down golf shoes I got. I like spending time out doors with friends and trying to improve and do better than the last time I played. I now play at a few local municipal courses that don't have dress codes and find that it in no way effects my game or anyone elses. We all enjoy our time out. Sure there are @sshats that treat others and the course crappy, but their dress doesn't dictate this. If my dress bothers you, you are more than welcome to keep playing at your CC courses where you can pay to be a member and demand that people dress how you feel is appropriate. Otherwise, mind you own business and let others enjoy the game regardless of their state of dress. BTW, I don't condone breaking rules or the I'll do what I want attitude. I do condone the letting my money speak for me and will play the courses that share my ideas on dress, I suggest you do the same. Josh F.

It's -5 outside. Even colder with wind chill. We got snow last night and expecting 3-6inches more tonight.... I hate Iowa...

I believe feeling comfortable leads to far more confidence than having a light wallet. Heck if you feel like a million bucks like that, I bet you feel like a trillion bucks in a Valentino business suit. Imagine how many under par you would shoot then. Your confidence would be off the charts! I am a believer in the fact that if I treat the golf course and people with respect, it shouldn't matter if I show up in jean shorts and a t-shirt. My money is just as good as the next guys. If you feel that people that dress like that are disrespectful to the course and people, then setup rules to get rid of the behavior, not the dressing. If you don't like the way I look, don't look at me. I probably don't like the way you look either. Josh F. Edit: I also wanted to add, that those Adida's warmup pants can easily cost $30-$50 and if that T-Shirt is an Affliction shirt it can run into the $70 range. Just because their not what you think is fancy, doesn't mean they are cheap.

@1UnderU: I take those two examples as last year they said that the X-20 Tour was nearly a tour iron with the benefits of game improvement clubs and slightly more bulky. Where as the X-22 Tour is the next step up. It improves on the X-20 Tour and takes it to a true Tour Club. Now whether any of this is true is definitely in the eye of the beholder. That is why not every person plays the same set of clubs. One person may feel the X-20 Tours were extremely workable, while you may have felt like you had no feel what so ever. From Golf Digests response, I do believe that their hotlist is exactly that. It is a list of the hottest new products, with some examples of real life golfers experiences. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do some additional looking and preferably swinging on your own. If I got to talk to some great golfer, say Tiger Woods, and he told me that some set of clubs was the end all of all clubs, I would still swing them myself to make sure they fit my game. I am definitely not a Tiger Woods player, therefore I will most likely prefer a different club. Josh F