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Rule question....15th club....maybe this has been covered...
Ignorant replied to Valleygolfer's topic in Rules of Golf
No. See Appendix II, 1, b: b. Adjustability All clubs may incorporate features for weight adjustment. Other forms of adjustability may also be permitted upon evaluation by the R&A.; The following requirements apply to all permissible methods of adjustment: (i) the adjustment cannot be readily made; (ii) all adjustable parts are firmly fixed and there is no reasonable likelihood of them working loose during a round; and (iii) all configurations of adjustment conform with the Rules. During a stipulated round, the playing characteristics of a club must not be purposely changed by adjustment or by any other means (see Rule 4-2a). -
Rule question....15th club....maybe this has been covered...
Ignorant replied to Valleygolfer's topic in Rules of Golf
Rule 4-4a clearly forbids that. You are limited to a maximum of 14 clubs when starting your stipulated round regardless whether you use every club or not. -
It seems to me that you are only preferring to reduce the role of BAD luck. Besides you seem to mix Rules and course planning. Good course planning means all hazards are visible from the tee which brightens the idea behind them: plan your play to avoid them....
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Because you are supposed to play from a bunker in the first place. No, wait, in the first place you are supposed NOT to hit your ball there, and only should you fail in this mission you are supposed to play from the bunker. Just that s**t happens and your ball buries under the lip every 25 years does not IMO justify the change. Golf is full of breaks, that is the absolute beauty and the ultimate challenge of this game. P.S. I did not understand how you came up with a 2-stroke penalty from Golfindad's post. What he wrote is that if you drop with 1 PS behind the bunker you get more predictable lie than if you make a sideways stroke. That makes only 1 PS instead of a risk of failing in the sideways stroke. Wasn't that your ultimate goal with this change to free a player from a multitude of penalties/bad lies?
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Very interesting. I have never played on a course with a DZ for a WH which takes that WH out of play. Then again, from the courses I have played in recent years I cannot from the top of my head remember any course with a DZ for a WH. Around here you MUST play your ball over any WH or go around it, if feasible. This I believe is one of the characteristics of golf. This seems to be a big difference in the culture, although I can understand why that kind of DZ's are there for. Then again, IMO that is no longer real golf.
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What if such a high capper cannot get over a WH 50 meters of water? Should s/he be allowed to carry the ball over the WH? Or should s/he be demanded to work on the skills until s/he can? If one's skills are not enough to manage a course then one should improve them. This may seem harsh but it is not too much to ask. And if one does not want to see the bother one should not bother of the score and just concentrate on enjoying the good shots and social aspect. After all, only those who want to make a score need to get out of a bunker according to the Rules.
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This. No need for a change of R28.
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Wouldn't you get a fried egg also if your ball lands in the bunker from high aloft? So what's the difference? An example. You hit your ball in the heavy rough but unfortunately your ball enters a bush and you cannot make a stroke at it. So you take an unplayable and drop your ball in the thick rough away from the bush. Now you got yourself 1 PS but your ball is still in that thick rough and it is very difficult to get a decent shot at it. What is the difference between this example and the one you wrote?
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It would be great to hear what the RB's have had in mind when not allowing what Erik is proposing. Some things that make me very much hesitant to change that Rule: - if you get an unplayable lie in a bunker and drop it in the bunker partially embedding your ball you are not in any different position than if you ball had partially embedded in the first place. Sometimes you get a good lie and sometimes you don't. You are way much worse off once there is a lot of casual water in the bunker and in such a case you have the option to get out of the bunker with 1 PS. - in my experience it is rather seldom (per player) a ball embeds in a bunker so badly that you cannot make any kind of stroke at it. IMO it is not the meaning of a bunker that you should always be able to make a stroke towards the pin but sometimes you just have to make a sideways stroke. This option is available also in most of the buried or embedded lies as well.
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Ball comes to rest in a dirt hole 2 feet off cart path.
Ignorant replied to golfmaniac007's topic in Rules of Golf
The bolded is what I was after in my post #33. If an area is so far away from the target that it is not expected the players to hit their balls there we normally leave those areas unmarked. And yes, you need to be there to decide but I was only taking up general principles, which apparently vary amongst the posters. -
Ball comes to rest in a dirt hole 2 feet off cart path.
Ignorant replied to golfmaniac007's topic in Rules of Golf
What I read from rogolf's answer was that he (and some others, too) would not mark an area in the rough as GUR, so you are not answering my question. Besides I would like to have an answer from rogolf as he most likely is the one who can elaborate his own thoughts better than any other person. And for further clarity I am referring to my question in post #33. -
Not more boring that a chip sideways from woods. Might be more demanding, though. Not to mention more time spent players thinking their strategy...
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Ball comes to rest in a dirt hole 2 feet off cart path.
Ignorant replied to golfmaniac007's topic in Rules of Golf
So, referring to my question to Fourputt you would not mark that area in the rough (= off the closely-mown areas) as GUR? -
Here in a nutshell is the reason why I hesitate to support the OP suggestion. Golf is a game of skills as well as wit. If you get yourself in trouble you should be able to get you out of it.
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