Knockglock

I'm going back this weekend to finish the rest of the fitting (other clubs aside from irons and wedges). I think I'll ask to hit some game improvement irons as well. But it does make me a little worried because I don't know what else I might need to be thinking about that the fitter isn't telling me. Got it, that's really good to know--perhaps I'm overthinking a decision that's not that important. Most of the discussion I see on the topic is a comparison between blades and GI, and that difference seems a lot bigger. FWIW, the PD clubs I was looking at were the Callaway Apexes.

Excellent, thank you! And got it--I wonder if they jack up the smash factor to sell more clubs? Although I don't really know how they make money, since I paid a separate fitting fee. I will check again on the grip size, we briefly measured it at my fitting but I'm going back this weekend to finish it up and I will ask about whether a more midsize grip would be better and try and play around with it. My face angles are a bit inconsistent, so that might be a help with that issue too. I signed up for a full bag club fitting at Club Champion, it was $350. We only did half the bag earlier, and I'm going back in this weekend, so I'm going to ask more questions when I go back this weekend. That was one of the things I was hoping to figure out from this thread, since I'm not super experienced with clubs, before I buy the Callaway Apexes—hat else there is to think about and what else I might ask the fitter.

Sorry, I should clarify. The fitter did not have me hit both players' distance and game improvement, but just thought I should be in the players' distance category and had me hit between clubs in that category. So before I buy I wanted to make sure that made sense.

Thank you! I actually got fit for players' distance irons, but wanted to make sure that made sense versus game improvement irons before I pulled the trigger.

Thank you so much for the really helpful response, Adam. I haven't really hit too many shots at either the 110g or 120g weight as my current irons are regular flex, so hopefully there won't be an issue with tiring me out too much during a round. But it sounds like 120g is a pretty common weight so if a lot of players can handle it, I assume I can as well (I'm in my early 30s). And good to know that players' distance irons are not going to be too difficult to hit. How much do you think the smash factor is inflated? I guess it doesn't matter that much, though, because either way the smash on the new clubs is a bit better than on my old ones? As far as my grip, we tested that as well and standard size seemed to work for me. And simple/cheaper build was what I was looking for, just trying to get a good set to hone the fundamentals and I'll worry more about precise details when my swing is more honed in. Thanks again! I may be wrong, but since I'm left-handed I think the negative swing path on trackman means an in-to-out path.

Hi all, Apologies in advance if this has been discussed before. I couldn't really find a good discussion on the topic but I might've missed it. What are the things that one should be thinking about when picking between players' distance irons and game improvement ones? What sort of handicap might prefer the players' distance irons over the game improvement ones? How forgiving are players' distance irons compared to the game improvement ones? What else should people be thinking about in deciding between the two categories? Note, by players' distance irons I am talking about the category as used on the Golf Digest Hot List, as distinguished from the true players' irons. Thank you. 2020 Hot List | Best Golf Clubs & Balls | GolfDigest.com Golf Digest's annual review of the best clubs in golf. Welcome to the 2020 Hot List of gold and silver medal winners.

Hi all, Hope it's okay to ask for people's thoughts on fittings here. I just wanted to double check and make sure people thought my fitting made sense before I pull the trigger on purchasing clubs. Below are the comparisons between what I currently play and what I got fitted for at Club Champion: Callaway Apex, 1/2" long, KBS Tour v shaft extra-stiff. I've played golf on and off my whole life but I haven't played much in a few years until quarantine and have been playing a lot since then and been taking weekly lessons. I wanted to get new sticks primarily because I had a suspicion my current clubs were too short for me (I bought them off the shelf without a fitting about a decade ago), although after doing the fitting I think I need new clubs also for the reason that the regular flex shaft is probably not the best fit for me. I'm probably somewhere between a mid and a high handicapper, although I haven't played in a while so I'm not entirely sure. I just wanted to know what you guys think about my fitting, whether anything seems off or you would pull the trigger. Obviously, it's a pretty big improvement between my current set and the ones I tested best with. But I do have some questions/thoughts (I discussed this somewhat with my fitter but also want second opinions). Sorry, I don't have the data for the unchecked boxes, but I do believe the rest of the options were a bit worse than what I was fitted with. Also, I told my fitter I wanted clubs I could grow into a little bit since I'm going to be taking lessons, and that I wanted to stick to stock clubs and shafts so as to not really drop too much cash especially when I don't think it's not really necessary to go to aftermarket shafts, etc., at this point in my game where I'm a mid handicap at best. (1) Does 0.5" extra seem plausible? I'm about 6' 2", maybe a touch taller with golf shoes on. I think this one is probably right, but my fitter didn't measure my wrist to floor measurement or anything, so a touch worried. 1" extra does seem a little bit too much at only 6' 2" though. (2) Does extra stiff shafts seem too strong? I told my fitter that since I'm recently back into the game and have been taking consistent lessons and intend to keep doing so, I wanted clubs I could grow into a little bit and to make a little bit of a projection. My swing speed seems a little low for extra stiff, although I suspect I will add a few miles per hour as I learn to really swing the club and make a full swing, but my fitter said that it's not black and white in terms of you need a certain shaft stiffness at certain swing speeds. (3) My fitter said I should definitely be playing players' distance irons, not game improvement or super game improvement (or blades). After thinking about that, I'm not too sure about that. What are the benefits of players' distance irons over game improvement ones? Should I be asking to hit game improvmeent/super game improvement irons as well? Is there going to be a big difference in forgiveness between players' distance irons and game improvement ones? If there's not, I would be fine to get them, but since I didn't hit any game improvement ones I don't really know. Based on my sample set they didn't seem too much harder to hit than my current game improvement set, so the difference between the two may be overblown. And I don't really see myself needing workability right now or wanting to try and switch up between a fade and a draw, although that might change. I don't really have any personal preference in looks or anything between the players' distance clubs and the game improvement ones. (4) I also wonder whether hitting 3 players' distance irons is enough to make a purchase. I look at the Golf Digest hot list and they have something like 15 options for players' distance irons, is hitting 3 different clubheads really enough to know what's best for me? Perhaps this is just a limitation of Club Champion whether in the time they invest for a fitting or what they have in stock. Although a part of me just thinks that I mainly just need to get something with the proper length and work on my swing and that the various differences between the other clubs isn't that huge of a deal for me right now. Is there anything else I need to be thinking about/asking the fitter before I pull the trigger? Would you buy the Apexes or hold off/try more options? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Note on data: I am left handed, which I think affects the positive/negative signs on the trackman data. But as you can see, pretty consistent in-to-out swing path but inconsistent on the club face direction.

Hello all! I'm interested in buying a used, left-handed Scotty Cameron putter (with headcover). Please post here if you have one for sale. My price is flexible depending on the condition and the model. I'm interested in putters up to $300 (though I am a broke student right not so something on the cheaper end is preferable). Thank you!

Haha thanks. I'm glad I can at least contribute something to the community ;) Thanks man, I definitely need to be reminded of this. Been putting in a lot of work, couldn't play this week unfortunately, which was a bummer. Still, can't wait until i'm free. 36 days to go!

Hey guys, Some of you might remember me. I posted alot last summer when I first got infected with the golf bug, and began golfing everyday. Then I went back to school, and although I originally planned to keep regularly golfing, I soon became overburdened with school, and was unable to golf regularly . I also decided on career plans (Law school), and am currently studying for the LSAT. So with that on my plate too, along with other extracurriculars hasn't left me with a lot of time to hit the driving range, let alone hit the course. But finally, after months of not even picking up a club, I dusted off the rust and played my first couple of rounds of the season! Surprisingly, I actually hit the ball very solidly both rounds, although my short game was extremely rusty. Felt great to get back out there, and actually hit some shots that felt like butter. I still have a little over a month until I take the LSAT and will be able to golf everyday, but hopefully I will be able to get out there once a week or so until then. Can't wait! My time off has actually allowed me to think about the mechanics of the golf swing alot, and helped me figure out A LOT! All the material I read and tournaments I saw finally got a chance to sink in, and i'm still reading the occasional monthly golf magazine. My out to in swing is completely gone, and I now know what it is to swing from the inside, although it needs much perfecting. Funny what a lot of time off can do.

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much lately, school is really bogging me down! Anyways, I have to write a research proposal for one of my classes, and i'm struggling pretty hard. The format is: introduction, research questions, literature review, rationale & hypotheses, operational definitions, data collection procedures, data analysis procedures, and then assumptions and limitations. If anyone has any experience in this area and can take a look at my proposal and give me some help it'd be greatly appreciated! Please let me know! -Knockglock

Let us know how it works out. I'd invest in lessons but since its winter and you said you don't want to drive out to the course then i'd say go for it! happy holidays ;)

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Good luck to your friend. I truly hope he comes out OK.

They seem to do both. Sometimes ill hit it to the right straight, and sometimes it'll have right curve. I think that I did change to a stronger grip as well. What is flipping the hands? And how can I fix that and my overrotating?

I think that I am swinging a bit harder, now that I can swing hard without hitting a fat banana ball. To fix my slice, it's kind of hard to explain. I flattened out my swing a little I think, and I try and stay inside the ball on takeaway and downswing. The biggest change I made was keeping my front (right) arm straighter (I let it bend too much before), and pull from the right side rather than what I used to push from the left side. Sometimes I have a little bit of fade on my driver or 3 wood, but not usually too much.

I'm now hitting everything right (left handed). I'm rarely hitting anything left anymore, it happens every once in a while. I used to always hit it left. Any ideas what is going on? My woods got a large increase in distance now that I don't lose lots of yardage due to a slice.

I like mine. I think they're more desirable for the higher handicapper / game improvement market.

LOL! very true very true.

I agree completely.

Nothing but respect to the deceased.

No way! That is golf, you're in the hole from day one haha

A lot of the golf courses that I play a lot have SIGNIFICANT pace of play issues. It is close to unbearable. By far my #1 biggest pet peeve. I've even had to reduce my rounds at the courses that i've found have horrible pace of play, and I avoid them on the weekends all together (when the pace of play is just disgusting). I've had rounds we kept pace with the group in front of us and had a 3 hour 9 HOLES! Literally there was groups 2 deep waiting to tee off at every tee box. Sooo frustrating! I've found that a 3 hour round is completely impossible unless I have the course to myself, and a 4 hour round is welcomed. 5 and 6 hour rounds have become the norm. Even at courses that aren't very crowded its still a problem. I was playing a course with only a couple other groups. First few holes is great, we fly through at our own pace (not rushing or anything), but then we get stuck behind the only other group on the course who started like 6 holes ahead of us. After being stuck behind them for a while we decided to just skip ahead a couple of holes and then we came back to the holes we skipped. It was nice, probably one of my fastest rounds ever, I think it was sub 3 hours. And I can't even remember the last time I was asked to play through. It seems to happen quite a few times when I just started playing and then now that i've improved a lot I never get asked to play through. So annoying! just let us play through! When I started, we always let faster players play through. Now that I don't play military-shank-grandma golf anymore I'm usually one of the faster groups but still let singles or two somes play through. Why are so many people so inconsiderate to not let OBVIOUSLY faster groups play through!??! It's horrible to get stuck behind some hackers that keep chunking and shanking and taking eight shots to move up the fairway and then they don't let you play through. I used to be one of those myself but I wouldn't hesitate to pick up my ball if I was slowing pace down so bad or let people play through.

You sir, are my hero! What do you do for a living?

Sounds like a very intense and challenging golf course! I definitely am going to have to play it at some point in my golfing career.