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Honestly....go to the range and just hit a 7 iron and a 5 iron (fade, draw, low, high..etc..) Then take some sneek peaks at the Driver...don't swing like a wuss...hit it! In other words....get your feel back, let her RIP!! don't be bashfull.

Then get Drunk and sleep it off. (if you drink that is...)

In the Bag...Ping Hoofer

3dx Tour Square - UST V2 HMOI X Flex
3dx 15* - X flex
Baffler DWS 20* Aldila NV Stiff 4-GW 600XC Forged Irons- S Flex 55* SW - Burner XD 60* LW - Burner XD Craz E Putter <----ProV1x---> Pellet


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I just move on and not let it bother me too much. I try to take something away from that round. There were probably situations during that round where you made bad decisions, and those decisions you have probably learned were wrong.... LOL... but knowing that I have shot lower scores in the past reminds me of my capabilities and assures me that lower scores will be just around the corner.

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You need to move on, just like after a bad shot.

Watch guys like Tiger, Ernie, Vijay, etc. They'll hit a bad shot and they may get upset, but it only lasts for about a second or two. After they get that out of the way, they *immediately* become enthralled and focused on the next shot. Jim Furyk said it best, if he hits a bad tee shot he then challenges himself to see if he can make a par from that bad tee shot. On the other hand, amatuers get angry and keep thinking about their last shot and never really focus properly on the next shot coming up.





3JACK

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Thanks for all the words of advice. BTW, the first thing I did after I got home was to kick back with a glass of scotch and tried to forget about it.

I've had bad rounds before obviously. It's just that this round will probably be my last round until after tax season. I'll be stuck in my office 'till April 15 thinking about all the bad shots I hit.

I've definitely learned something. My weakness right now is my short game. A difficult course with undulating fast greens just reveals that weakness. Now I just need to find a way to get out of the office and work on that weakness over the next couple of months.

In my bag:

Driver: r7 460 9.5° Stiff
3 Wood: r7 Draw
5 Wood: r7 Draw Irons 4-AW: r7 CGB Wedge: rac Satin 54° Wedge: rac Satin 60° Putter: Daytona Sport 1 34" Ball: DT solo or NXT


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I had a terrible round yesterday which is still stuck in my head. My handicap is just below 14, but I shot a 97 yesterday. Now I haven't played in a couple weeks, but I have been practicing some during that time so it wasn't like I hadn't picked up a club in 2 weeks. Also, it was on a fairly difficult course that I've never played before. Just very frustrated with the round. Not even sure what to take from it. I was curious as to how everyone else deals with a bad round?

I have had that happen so many times that I now expect nothing of myself when I hit the first tee. I learned the 'expect' part from a Bob Rotella book.

Another thing that helps me is what has become sort of a mantra in my traveling group: "You're not good enough to get mad." Laughing about it while it's happening lessens the hangover. Everybody's done it. It's part of the game. I'm not the same player every day. Whatever, it's not the end of the world for me.

Best, Mike Elzey

In my bag:
Driver: Cleveland Launcher 10.5 stiff
Woods: Ping ISI 3 and 5 - metal stiffIrons: Ping ISI 4-GW - metal stiffSand Wedges: 1987 Staff, 1987 R-90Putter: two ball - black bladeBall: NXT Tour"I think what I said is right but maybe not.""If you know so much, why are you...


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