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Has anybody tried these yet? What has been the overall perception of them? What shaft did you use for these? I have the driver in the XT shaft and really like it. I have a Viper hybrid but usually hook the living hell out of it. I sometimes think I will use the 3 and 4 iron because I can't hit the hybrids. I am still at a standstill in my decision.

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Just put together the 2H, 3H and 4H, but I haven't used them yet.

I used the XT shaft. These things are some of the best-looking clubs I've ever seen. I figure with the tri-port setup, you'll be able to adjust the hook out of them if need be.

I'll play sometime over the next week or two and post a review, if you like.

Jess

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Just played them today.

These may be the best clubs I've ever played, of any kind. They are soooooo easy to hit. They go straight as an arrow, maybe with just a pinch of draw or fade at the tail end if I don't hit it right (considering I'm a 20-25 handicapper, operator error happens a lot).

Satisfying, expensive-sounding "ping-click" when the ball is struck on or near the sweet spot. You can definitely feel when you've hit it good.

I hit them about 10-15 yards longer than the corresponding irons in my bag. I've got the weight ports set up neutral right now, with the heavy weight center-back in the sole and the light weights in the heel and toe.

The Snake Eyes Mamba 2 driver I built recently still needs some bugs worked out of it, but the Viper Tour Blacks are wonderful. They also make a driver that matches it and I might have to try that sometime as well.

Jess

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Have the 18 degree and the 24 degree of these. Awesome feeling clubs. I ended up putting a couple of Snake Eyes VSE Fairway shafts that were sitting around in them. Tipped them like a 7/9 wood. They worked well, but personally I wish they used 0.370 tip shafts instead of 0.335. They designed them for 0.335 to give more options with graphite shafts, which makes sense, but I prefer a heavier shaft in my hybrids (75+ gram) which was a little harder to find. I changed the two light weights out for 2 heavier weights. Made them 1/2" longer than standard. I hit these things well, but they give up a little distance for me, maybe 5-10 yards, but enough to notice. One of the best looking hybrids I've seen and nice sound and overall performance.

They are likely getting kicked out of the bag, not really because there is anything wrong with them, just decided that the NV shaft was robbing me of some of the advantage of hybrids (hitting a little low for me). Since the reshafting cost would be a very large percentage of what new hybrids would cost, I think I'm going to buy new ones and either keep these as spares or sell them off.

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Callaway X-Forged Vintage Wedges 50/12, 54/14, 58/10 (C-Grind Sole) w/ Rifle 5.5Yes! Marilyn 33" Z-URS ||| SkyCaddie SG 2.5 ||| Clicgear Model 2.0


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  Masa said:
Have the 18 degree and the 24 degree of these. Awesome feeling clubs. I ended up putting a couple of Snake Eyes VSE Fairway shafts that were sitting around in them. Tipped them like a 7/9 wood. They worked well, but personally I wish they used 0.370 tip shafts instead of 0.335. They designed them for 0.335 to give more options with graphite shafts, which makes sense, but I prefer a heavier shaft in my hybrids (75+ gram) which was a little harder to find. I changed the two light weights out for 2 heavier weights. Made them 1/2" longer than standard. I hit these things well, but they give up a little distance for me, maybe 5-10 yards, but enough to notice. One of the best looking hybrids I've seen and nice sound and overall performance.

Try the XT shaft if you decide to get new ones.

I'm having problems with a VSE shaft in another club, related to distance loss. My hybrids with the XT shaft, however, outflew the irons they replaced. Jess

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  JessN16 said:
Try the XT shaft if you decide to get new ones.

The 24 hybrid goes farther than the 4-iron it replaced, that isn't the problem, it's just that I found a different head/shaft combo that fits my distance gaps better. I don't particularly like the XT shaft. I've hit it in a couple different heads, including the Viper Tour, and it doesn't perform for me. Couldn't really explain why, just not the right one for me. It doesn't feel good and I just don't seem to get any real "pop" from it.

New Driver Ordered
New 3 Wood Ordered
Two New Hybrids Ordered
I-701 Irons 5-PW w/ Rifle 5.0
Callaway X-Forged Vintage Wedges 50/12, 54/14, 58/10 (C-Grind Sole) w/ Rifle 5.5Yes! Marilyn 33" Z-URS ||| SkyCaddie SG 2.5 ||| Clicgear Model 2.0


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  Masa said:
The 24 hybrid goes farther than the 4-iron it replaced, that isn't the problem, it's just that I found a different head/shaft combo that fits my distance gaps better. I don't particularly like the XT shaft. I've hit it in a couple different heads, including the Viper Tour, and it doesn't perform for me. Couldn't really explain why, just not the right one for me. It doesn't feel good and I just don't seem to get any real "pop" from it.

Have you hit it in the Viper Tour Black driver?

I don't really like the Mamba 2, which I was hoping I'd like, so I'm thinking about putting together the Viper Tour Black driver. Jess

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Jess,

I have the Tour Viper driver and it is AWESOME!!!!!!! I play HS Varsity golf (Now a 10 handicap or so) and when I hit it solid, it sounds really powerful and goes really far. If I miss hit it, I lose some distance and accuracy, but I know that I did something wrong in my swing and need to correct it. I built it with the XT shaft. If I were you, I would say goodbye to the Mamba 2 for now and look into the Viper Tour driver.

Hybrid: How did the XT hybrid shaft feel in the hybrid? Stable? Whippy? What was your overall thoughts on the shaft?

Clubmaker15

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  JessN16 said:
Have you hit it in the Viper Tour Black driver?

I did hit a demo one of the Viper Tour drivers that had the XT shaft in it. Overall it's a solid shaft, just not for me. I prefer something with more of a smoother feel to it. I actually hit the Viper Tour pretty well, pretty much on par with my HiBore XL with the original shaft. Something about the feel of the shaft I don't really care for. Personal taste. It's a solid shaft that I could play with good success, just not "the" shaft for me when it comes to the driver. I built a Viper Tour driver with a spined Aldila NV and that guy just absolutely bombs it. I'd like to try one with a shaft that fits me a little better, but too expensive of an experiment after I went and got fitted to new woods last weekend. I was just absolutely bombing the clubs that they fitted me to. Perfect feel and just awesome jump off the club at impact. Unfortunately the shaft is so expensive normally, that it's actually cheaper to buy the OEM club with the custom shaft option than to build a Viper Tour with that same shaft.

  clubmaker15 said:
Jess,

Same general experience in the hybrid. Solid shaft (probably why they suggest it for that head) but just not quite right. For the price I think it's a very good shaft and we sold a lot of them, but it doesn't fit me better than other options that are out there. It has a pretty stable feel at impact (somewhat similar to like a Proforce V2) but the tip felt a little whippy to me. If I tried to really go after it, I felt like a lost the feel of the clubhead a bit. If I stayed back and let the shaft do the work I had pretty good success with it, it just wasn't as good of a fit when I tried to really go after it.

New Driver Ordered
New 3 Wood Ordered
Two New Hybrids Ordered
I-701 Irons 5-PW w/ Rifle 5.0
Callaway X-Forged Vintage Wedges 50/12, 54/14, 58/10 (C-Grind Sole) w/ Rifle 5.5Yes! Marilyn 33" Z-URS ||| SkyCaddie SG 2.5 ||| Clicgear Model 2.0


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What should I do in regards to choosing a shaft? Should I try the XT shaft or should I be looking elsewhere? I have the XT in my driver, and I think it is okay but might change it in the future. I thought about purchasing the combo for $80, but am debating whether I want to look for something outside of the XT. I had the XT in the first Viper hybrid and took it out because it felt so whippy. I understand that the shaft must flex to do its job, but that can only go so far. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks

clubmaker15

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