Iron Swing Help (Video Inside)

[wrx_junki]

The swing video is posted on Swing Academy instead of Youtube:
http://www.swingacademy.com/videoPlayer.aspx?id=3631

[senorchipotle]

everything looks perfect at address, good takeaway all the way to the pinnacle of your backswing. but then, you do a reverse stewart cink motion and loop your hands out and above your swing plane, thus coming over the top. my guess is you've either been pulling it left or playing a fade. in frame 24, to be specific, you start your hip turn, which looks good. but, as you're turning your hips your hands move from a good inside/neutral striking position, to a position too far to the right. try to make sure that once you reach the pinnacle of your backswing. the only motion you take with your hands after that is straight down at the ball.

[wrx_junki]

Oops, forgot to mention that this isn't me. This is a college golfer that plays purely by feel. He doesn't work on mechanics too much. His short irons are fine this way but he has been trying to come from the inside to strike the ball better with his long irons. So whatever help can be relayed, he'll much appreciate.

Could you possibly explain the thing he's doing with his hands a little more clearly. Will be playing again tomorrow so I can let him know after the round.

[senorchipotle]

Oops, forgot to mention that this isn't me. This is a college golfer that plays purely by feel. He doesn't work on mechanics too much. His short irons are fine this way but he has been trying to come from the inside to strike the ball better with his long irons. So whatever help can be relayed, he'll much appreciate.

ok... i'll try to be more concise and exact. i grabbed a club to try to replicate what he was doing to better understand why he does it. when he reaches his full hip turn and his hands are at the pinnacle, top, apex, whatever you wanna call it, of his swing, he starts his hip turn before moving his hands down at the ball, which is great because that's what's supposed to happen. however, when he starts the hip motion, his hands move with his hips to the outside of his body, instead of staying in the same place. once his hands are outside his line, then they drop down to strike the ball. to put it simply, tell him to keep his hands still at the top and don't shoot them out right along with his right hip. got it?

[wrx_junki]

Keep his hands quiet pretty much right?

[senorchipotle]

Keep his hands quiet pretty much right?

basically, yes.

[Nick88]

Couple of drills he can do to stop him coming over the top from the top downwards!

1st is to use the headcover under the right arm drill, makes you stay in sink and makes sure yo bring down on plane! When you do this swing at an easier pace than normal!

2ndly you need to find a grass range for this drill really! If you have a shaft or something with no head you can stick in the ground! Stick it in the ground behind the ball by about 9 inches on the exact line your going to hit down! This way your body has to make the club come from the inside!

Hope that helps man! :D

[iacas]

Keep his hands quiet pretty much right?

Disagree entirely. Has nothing to do with the hands IMO.

His hip probably hasn't moved forward (towards the target) at all. I've used this picture in the past, and I'm going to use it again: Your hands will drop more naturally if you start the downswing properly from the ground up.

[wrx_junki]

I'll try and take a face on video of him to see if his hips has moved toward the target or not.