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I play 1984 Hogan Apex PC. (1-E set bought new in 1984 to replace a similar set of 1972 Apex irons that were stolen). I bought a set of Titleist 735 CMs that have similar short irons and some cavity on the long irons, but have never liked the ball flight. I'm back to my old Hogans and happy with the decision.


  • 2 months later...
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I started playing 3-4 years ago. And my first set of irons were Wilson deep red 2 distance clubs. Shots always felt good but I could never control my distance or direction. I needed response...i bought a "cheap" set of blades on eBay. Wilson "Staff" blades. 2-pw. I believe they are known as the '76 blades. I love them but im 6'4 and needed some shaft length help. These clubs feel like they are a half inch or even an inch short.

I bought some Wilson staff fg tours. (version 1) if there's anything that replicates the old blade its this. Yea it has some forgiveness and generous camber in the sole. But it feels as good as anything

I plan to get my '76 blades reshafted and lie change obviously. Maybe lofts? But either way these clubs made me realize what golf should really be like.and why they will never leave my ownership. Its the same reason I play a pear shaped 440cc tour edge and NOT a wide faced forgiving driver. Same for my 3 wood and the traditional feel works down to the putter.

Wilson staff tour special forged I

ST-230 Max 9.5*, Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 6.0

ST-G 5-Wood 17*, Kai'Li Blue 70g Stiff

Adams Tight Lies II 19*, KBS Tour Graphite Prototype 85g Stiff

Wilson Staff D9 Forged 5i, DG105 VSS Pro Stiff (stock replacement for 4i)

Wilson Staff FG Tour (2009) PW-5i, DG S300 +1"/2*Up, 6.0 Freq

Mizuno S23, 52* and 56*, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 115g

Callaway Mac Daddy PM Grind 60*, KBS Tour-V

TaylorMade Ardmore 3 TP Patina (left-handed)

 


  • 1 year later...
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I've been playing Wilson fg51's off and on for ten years. Always score better with them than game improvement clubs. I'm not a low handicapper, but I don't have many really bad mishits. Play with a group that  just has a good time. Blades have a great feel, and some iron Byron studies have shown them to be more accurate on square hit than GI irons. Also have a set of heavy, netforged Raven blades that are almost as good. On a good day I'd take the blades anytime.


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