Does swing angle affect lag?

[paddlefoot]

I was at Edwin Watts looking for socks (of all things), and the guy offered to video my swing for 25 bucks and give me some feedback.

I did my normal swing, and just as I thought, my shaft was straight up and down at impact (like i was trying to lift up the ball) instead of the club head lagging behind the shaft.

He suggested that I swing steeper.  He re-video taped my swing.  At impact I had much more lag, the club face was well behind the shaft and the shaft was angled forward...

My question.  Is this for real?  Could swing path steepness really affect lag?  Or does Edwin Watts have some slick video manipulation going on to try and convince me that I need lessons.

As always, TIA for your wisdom...

[BWChuck]

No real golf wisdom here, as I'm not a good golfer (yet), and have not taken lessons (yet).  What I do a know a little about, is sales.  It is incredibly easy to sell anything to anybody when the customer is vulnerable while looking at anything they are even remotely interested in.

And yes, manipulation is only one of many tactics that can pay big dividends in sales (whether manipulation was the case, I do not know).

It sounds as if this guy gave you a one sentence fix (convincing that you need a lesson) for the price of 15 minutes of quality and more detailed instruction ($50/ 1/2 hour).  Had you written this same post without the "video my swing for 25 bucks," I still would have posted the first paragraph.  You were robbed of 25 dollars.

Can this guy give quality lessons you'll be happy with?  Maybe, but I doubt it.  What I would assume, is that after lesson 5, he will make sure you come back for lesson 6; and after lesson 100, there will be a great reason for 101.

[paddlefoot]

Update.  This just hit me.  I remember when he video taped me the second time, in addition to telling me to swing steeper, he also told me to turn belt buckle to target at impact...  I think that's what caused my video to show more lag...not the angle of attack.

Regarding BWChuck's post, I agree about sales tactics, but...I will say that the 25 bucks was worth it because at a minimum I could see that I'm trying to lift up instead of swinging down and through with lag.  I think the belt buckle advice caused more hip rotation, thereby increasing lag.

After the 25 dollar swing video, they then try to get you to sign up for lessons, but the feedback I got from the 25 video analysis was enough to give me stuff to work on...

[Mr3Wiggle]

Originally Posted by BWChuck

No real golf wisdom here, as I'm not a good golfer (yet), and have not taken lessons (yet).  What I do a know a little about, is sales.  It is incredibly easy to sell anything to anybody when the customer is vulnerable while looking at anything they are even remotely interested in.

And yes, manipulation is only one of many tactics that can pay big dividends in sales (whether manipulation was the case, I do not know).

It sounds as if this guy gave you a one sentence fix (convincing that you need a lesson) for the price of 15 minutes of quality and more detailed instruction ($50/ 1/2 hour).  Had you written this same post without the "video my swing for 25 bucks," I still would have posted the first paragraph.  You were robbed of 25 dollars.

Can this guy give quality lessons you'll be happy with?  Maybe, but I doubt it.  What I would assume, is that after lesson 5, he will make sure you come back for lesson 6; and after lesson 100, there will be a great reason for 101.

What this guy said times a million.  As a rule of thumb I wouldn't take any more lessons at Edwin Watts.