Directed Force Putters

[JPitts]

2 minutes ago, The Club Nut said:

So you say, but obviously they are considered enough for Edel to make a putter that was meant to not be effected by these forces as well. I think they're well worth considering. 

Let's not forget Odyssey with the toe up. Closest anyone has come to duplicating lie angle balancing.

[iacas]

4 minutes ago, The Club Nut said:

So you say, but obviously they are considered enough for Edel to make a putter that was meant to not be effected by these forces as well. I think they're well worth considering. 

Marketing.

I've said the same things about the Edel putters. I don't sell them, though I sell Edel putters and wedges. Why? Because it's marketing, and with the limited models available in their Torque-Fit line, I am not at all confident that I can fit people to aim them properly given their limited configurations.

Aim is important. The DF putter has very little customization.

@Jack Watson couldn't aim it. My experience says most others couldn't aim it really well either, because, heck, I've seen the same exact putter going from a small line to a dot to no line or dot change aim by about 10" at 16'.

1 minute ago, JPitts said:

Let's not forget Odyssey with the toe up. Closest anyone has come to duplicating lie angle balancing.

Because if there was actually anything to it, as in actually something to it, the bigger companies would have figured out a way to do it.

They haven't, because there isn't.

And it's not because they'd be violating some patent. Bill wouldn't be able to fight a patent lawsuit against a TaylorMade or an Odyssey, and he probably knows that. TaylorMade probably violated Adams' patent(s) on the speed slot or whatever it was called… and so they just bought Adams.

[The Club Nut]

10 minutes ago, iacas said:

Marketing.

I've said the same things about the Edel putters. I don't sell them, though I sell Edel putters and wedges. Why? Because it's marketing, and with the limited models available in their Torque-Fit line, I am not at all confident that I can fit people to aim them properly given their limited configurations.

Aim is important. The DF putter has very little customization.

@Jack Watson couldn't aim it. My experience says most others couldn't aim it really well either, because, heck, I've seen the same exact putter going from a small line to a dot to no line or dot change aim by about 10" at 16'.

Because if there was actually anything to it, as in actually something to it, the bigger companies would have figured out a way to do it.

They haven't, because there isn't.

And it's not because they'd be violating some patent. Bill wouldn't be able to fight a patent lawsuit against a TaylorMade or an Odyssey, and he probably knows that. TaylorMade probably violated Adams' patent(s) on the speed slot or whatever it was called… and so they just bought Adams.

Well ,actually there is a measurable significant amount of torque and there's actually a little gauge that gets mounted into the Revealer and they actually ‘map’ torque spikes .... what I don’t understand is where your data or measurements are taken from and exactly how?  In order to provide evidence to support to findings after all its is a scientific group apparently. The DFP info will be posted at the pga show. Just fyi. 

[iacas]

1 minute ago, The Club Nut said:

Well ,actually there is a measurable significant amount of torque and there's actually a little gauge that gets mounted into the Revealer and they actually ‘map’ torque spikes .... what I don’t understand is where your data or measurements are taken from and exactly how?  In order to provide evidence to support to findings after all its is a scientific group apparently. The DFP info will be posted at the pga show. Just fyi. 

Oh, I'd forgotten: I have tested the DFP, at the PGA Show. As did @SavvySwede back in one of the earlier pages.

I didn't care for it. It's just another flat piece of metal on the end of a stick.

It's not a significant amount of torque. Sorry, it's just not. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

[Phil McGleno]

The more you keep talking the more you bump this topic in Google and the worst your ugly putters look to those with half a brain or more.

I have bought some things I really like.-I like my car a lot.

But I would not dream of spending hours talking to other people about how stupid they are for buying a different car or how their world would change if they bought the same car as me. I am just content to drive my car, and if people ask, I tell them a little about it. But if they say they don't like sedans I drop the subject. Why would I care so much as to keep talking about it?

What are your vested interests?-Or are many of you employed by DF, or friends of Bill, or Bill himself just like how Bill lied about who he was on the early pages?

[JPitts]

17 minutes ago, iacas said:

You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Couldn't agree more. 

[iacas]

16 minutes ago, JPitts said:

Couldn't agree more. 

Great. We'll end it with that. By staff vote (with myself recused), it was unanimous.

Take care.