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I think that is where I am in your last paragraph. After reading more in the slide thread I've tried to exaggerate it and dial it back. That is what I focus on and if I can get weight moved and clear my arms tend to work naturally. This is only coming from somebody who battles the turn only and early extension. I also noticed if I slide my left hip kind if starts turning on its own. I'm only speaking from average perspective and could be way off. I feel after working in the turn, that has been what caused my arms to be way off. When I shift right it all happens without thinking.

Average golfers like myself usually have something else break well before impact. So even if you are thinking about hips, it's still all like a backlash on a reel on bad shots. I just want to find fairways and hit greens. Power will come auto as i progress. Ive started working more on my footwork over thinking about my arms and realized if I get balanced and turn the arms do it in their own. Maybe that's the average golfer in me, but if I focus on my feet and hips I strike it better than thinking about arms.

My brain is tired and I'll say I'm an average golfer and me focusing on my left arm is like anything you can think of that is feels wrong. If I focus on right arm, oooh the natural righty takes over, and cast happens and rely on perfect timing. So, for me, I focus on my grip and keeping it oh so soft, esp right hand. Get a good take away, stay soft, and focus on my shift/turn and no early ext. The rest happens...just like my soft right hand and arm will get tense when it needs to. I'm not good, just an 18, but I know I'm an 18 because my short game is awful, and I'm working on it. Not because my right or left arm does this or that... I'm never going to have a perfect swing, but I know I can get to where I can trust it and it be repeatable. Golf is hard already, why do we make it harder by focusing on so much?

I can't tell you how to cure it, but I can share what has "helped" me with mine. As people talk about setup, posture, angles, etc, it was hard for me to know when my swing was breaking down. For me, I step about an extra foot wide of normal stance. I feel like I'm more upright than my normal shot. I play off my front heel and make sure my right arm (I'm RH) isn't way above my left at address (I setup with LH and bring RH to grip rather than just waking up - that was amazing to see that difference). When I take away, I focus on keeping it low and slow and making sure to turn and not sway. If I do it right, I feel all the loading on my right side. For me, it hasn't always been from OTT. Many times, I justn ever gave myself a chance. If I can do most of my basics of setup and backswing, now if I miss it's more of a fade - which I'm fine with...for now. So, that is where I am with mine and it's helped. Slices suck.

I really like my jpx 800 pros, but I hit an i20 and it felt awesome. I'd like a redo.

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I'll keep an eye out for the review. I'm calling Edwin watts to see if they still let you demo a club outside. Thanks.

I went to golfsmith for their fitting and after hitting different drivers, the i20 gave best results on their system. If I go on numbers it should be that but I'm not a low handicap and thought that club was a "players club"....if that is even real... Should I go with numbers or keep looking because of the less forgiveness blah blah blah?

Sound like me. If I slice that bad, I slow my swing way down, close the face some at address, and make sure when at impact I'm not sitting on my right foot. Few swings later it come back. Usually it happens on an overswing after a good run of holes and confidence kicks up a notch.

Well I think I've finally accomplished it. After a couple lessons, reading and watching to nothing clicking...a guy at the course says keep your steep backswing and swing out. I said I do and showed him a couple and he said I was inside inside or out to in. Thinking I was dropping in, I was not. He told me to exaggerate my hands and club to feel a loop coming inside when I started down. First few were shanks, but slowly started not only making solid contact but I stopped hitting off the toe. I really hope that this loop feeling is right and not causing more faults. Anyone else feel a loop to get inside? I haven't filmed it yet, but I'm hoping it's mainly just dropping and not a big loop like it feels.

Debate with buddy... He claims if you are square at impact it doesn't matter what your plane is. Is he right?

Yeah I'm a member currently, so that is covered. It more now about way easier access and surely hopping in more games. Just boils down to me finding time to work on things compared to being like a college kid at a nudie bar and going crazy there!

It really doesn't. I was bored and wanted to see what people had to say. I'm building on one and will of course more. Just wondering if people played more/less practice and if like I asked got better or worse. Sometimes too much of something can be a bad thing.

Thanks. I knew there would be a bible out there. I didnt want to drown swimming through threads like mine.

I was thinking that might be the case. I'd like to practice more but knowing its there will be the challenge.

To those that have lived or are living on a course, did you get better or worse?

Hey all, I'd like to get some input on the "slide" of a downswing. As an example, I've been told to not slide, but turn. Which in my brain and watching something, makes sense. However, in "my" golfswing, there is a major breakdown. When I'm practicing, I get to the top of my backswing and try to turn from that position. Well, my brain freezes and it's like my body is saying, this doesn't work, please try again. When I get to the top of my backswing, if I have this feeling of pressing down in my feet to then slide some weight forward, I feel I can turn that left hip better. I've hit bad and good shots doing this, so I'm not sold it's the right way. I'm trying to not push right hip forward to throw me off. So, when people say don't slide, do they mean, just don't slide all weight to the left in the downswing, or are they saying you shouldn't slide/turn? Yes, I'm lost.

They of course are selling you some, but they are trying to sell you on your own confidence. An example is I had my first lesson of the year, from a guy who I had one with right before the season ended. He told me in my first lesson that I have a decent swing and that he feels that I can get into the 70's. Well, deep down, when I hit it well, I know I can too. However, you have to let your guard down and do what they tell you. From what I've gathered, is they work on things which can be described about 1000 different ways. I like my guy, because he keeps throwing out different analogies until something clicks with me. At the same time, it's great to have somebody break you down. I hit decent shots the hard way and we worked on me using my left side to start and turn rather than drop and turn with my right. What a difference. Now it's up to me to implement it. Basically, they are all going to sell you because they have to have students to make a living. Just figure out if you two mesh and you can relate. Good Luck.

That helps, thanks. Although, it's not going to help me w/ 90-50ish. Oh well, almost warm enough to go after work and try to figure it out.

What distances can you effectively hinge and hold? I ask because like most beginners, my short game is by far my weakest. 100, I'm fine (not fine but better). 90 and in, it's miserable. I've tried choking down and even choke down w/ 3/4 or 1/2 and it still goes way too far. I don't know if it's because I'm hitting the ball better off of the 3/4, following through too much, or what but it's mind numbing. I use my 56 from 100 in from all distances except chipping which I've been using 8i or PW. I would bump and run more, but the course I play doesn't give you good lies or angles in most cases. I've tried what seems to be the hinge and hold and have seen a good shot, but more shanks. My brain tells me it's from peeking or from not committing to the downsing and holding causing me to stab at it.

I play this course and I'm still in awe about the attention this story has gotten across the country! Marshall? Never seen one there. Maybe a guy in the proshop out and about, but even then I don't see them getting out that area - especially when they can barely get a cart girl out there. Sad stuff for sure. I've heard multiple stories about what could have happened, but I stick with the newpaper on facts - much closer than the wives tales I hear.

I had to do cardio today and I am just not able to get in the rhythm of it. It bores me to tears after 5 minutes, regardless of what I watch or listen to. I can't lift since I've potentially torn a ligament in my thumb, but can still swing w/o pain...so that's a plus. Anyone have any workout that I can do solo at a gym that isn't just straight cardio, but not freeweights since my grip is poor on injured hand?

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll be sure to check all of those out and more! I have a buddy now who is telling me to learn to hit my long irons and I'll be happier further down the road. I'll be happier further down the road and when I can stop hitting the 4/5 like dirt. It's unreal how much different they feel than 6 and down.

I'll try to make this simple and I know everyone's swing and games are different, but... When it comes to hybrids, are there brands that are easier to hit or more forgiving? At what point would you want to consider steel shafts? Also, why do I see such discrepancies in distances, i.e. 170-210... I can find reviews on specific models and will eventually hit some, but would like to have a good place to start my search. Happy New Year.

That is what I was kind of thinking. If I'm thinking right, lower bounce off tight lies is more room for error. I've hit my fair shair of thin shots w/ the 14 bounce I had. I've also hit a 10 out of a bunker of a buddy fine, so I think you are on the right track of 8. Thanks.