clarkgriswold

You are a giver. Thanks for the heads up. The kid can ride his bike to his baseball game!

Not sure why you clearly have issues with those that want or require just a sane pace of play. It seems to me that more threads on the subject speaks to the relative importance of said subject to the golfing community.

Brilliant. http://www.usga.org/MicroSiteContent.aspx?id=21474856337

I agree, it works ok. I would say it's 3-4 yards off of sprinkler heads most of the time but that's easily adjusted And I got it back when it was free, so nothing lost.

Oh, it's not ALL them...but as long as TaylorMade has those particular idiots believing they are Dustin Johnson-like(and they believe it because they met some girl at the VFW last night who has the same tramp stamp as Paulina) they will continue to be a slow play problem. I guess that breed just sticks out in my mind because their brand of slow play bothers me more than most other offenders who may have beginners issues, health/age issues, etc...stuff that actually cannot be helped. Being douche-like is a curable condition. For most.

Amen. I am not a slow-play Nazi, generally. This type of slow play just rubs me the wrong way...in the same way that kids can't make free-throws in basketball anymore...why not? Because when did Sportscenter last show a made free-throw over a dunk? That's right, the next time will be the first time. Worse than the marking of a putt, "like a pro", is the standing behind your ball whilst you think(presumably!) about distance, wind and the next time you need to take a dump. Then pull a club. Then take practice swings. Then get behind the ball to visualize. Then take a practice swing. And finally, pull the trigger for the 125 yard Kate Winslet into the front right bunker. Thank you GolfChannel and NBC for this fun new golf routine.

SO, SO, SO agree. I have played with more than a lot of shitty players that play ready golf and at a reasonable pace. More often I find the biggest offenders to be the 20-something Backwards Hat "Dude" Brigade of pseudo-good golfers. You know the type. You may be the type. Typically, 4 "dudes' or "bros" who dress like they can play and have the sticks that say they can play...then head to the bar and each come out with a cooler of Coors Light. Then they proceed to each take a breakfast ball on the first hole since none of them "flushed one, bro" and battle it out for the best double bogey of the group. All the while enjoing the finest of todays new country on their "smart phone" while playing. On the third hole, a 550 yard Par 5, two of them pop up their drives 180 yards but proceed to wait for the green to clear before hitting their second shot. One puts it in the 9th fairway, complete smother hook, the other a weak pop fly to right field splash down. After the exchange of "dude!" disbelief they proceed to the the other two balls(15 yards ahead of them) who are using one laser range finder to tell them that they have 340 to the front. Both pull 3 woods because "dude, DJ gets there from here ALL the time" and TaylorMade told them they have 17 extra yards to play with, so go for it. An easy 5 on the 4th hole(a 142 yard par 3 from the whites but these players are too good for that, they are tippers) puts them over the hour and 1/4 mark for the front nine. Right on pace! After a 3 hour front 9, you can bet they refill their coolers and maybe do a shot of Jag at the turn which apparently has a negative impact on their hearing as they proceed crank up the country tunes in their carts that is obviously helping their awesome tempo. Guess how slow their back 9 plays out...cuz it's the tougher nine and they are now buzzing and bad. More country music, louder, will probably help. Right? You get the picture. THIS is the problem with pace of play...not beginners. To me, it's the influx of sausage-fest NFL/NASCAR mentality mixed with the need to emulate what the they see on TV.

Not sure you can do a whole lot better on the used market than a set of MP33's. I have these and the VR Pros and I tend to favor the 33's most of the time. Both have Project X 6.0 shafts and are 1 degree flat. Misses seems to be more vocal with the 33's but a well stuck ball is pure bliss.

Titleist carry bag Titleist 905s Titleist 910f Titleist 910h Mizuno MP33(4-Pw) Vokey 52 and 56 Never Compromise TDP5.2 Bridgestone E6

I have found that if you have them in a backpack you will confuse the x-ray op but they will let you carry them on.

Hey all, Heading south in a few days for a week of playing with my 15 year old son who is gearing up for the spring golf season. Looking for ideas of games we can play that would stoke his competitive fire a little bit and help him improve his course management/decision making at the same time. I think the idea of his getting into my pocket might motivate and accelerate his improvement? Any ideas...I am not up to speed on much other than Wolf, to be honest. Thanks!!

Value golf. at least in the west metro of Minneapolis, is a really hard find. I did a pretty exhaustive search for memberships this offseason and found I would need to play a lot more golf than I am usually able to find time for in order to make the $ make sense. Using Golfnow.com has scored me some decent rounds at Legends, etc. but most often I am paying full price for most rounds. Twilight golf is difficult to make happen during the week, for me...so it's not a super option. Maybe hitting the pavement and pleading with struggling courses would actually find you a decent discount from their posted memembership rates but I haven't the time to make those pitches. Good luck!

likewise...it's embarassing how often I am there. We should have a support group.

This might be worth looking into...awesome courses and at $15 a night per person for lodging? It's not the Ritz, but it might do... http://www.giantsridge.com/summer/scouts-group-sports-dorm/ Not too bad a hop from SJU to Giants either. I find it more appealing than anything in BrainDead. Good luck.

Looking for course suggestions for mid March. I know it will not be balmy but I will take what I can get. I was looking on the Missouri side of the bit with Stone Canyon and Adams Pointe in Blue Springs. Anything else I should look at? what about the Kansas side of the city? Thanks

My name is Clark, and I am a shot-shapeahholic. I used to think Johnny Miller was a 1st class d-bag when he talked about baby cuts and powerfades and going draws. I used to think "who cares, he hit the green!" Now, I care too much. It has overcome me. It's not enough to hit a green in reg, it needs to come in with the proper shape. I want to cut it off the bunker. I need to draw it into the flag. ok, I kid...I am not completely obsessed, but it has become something I think about so much more than I ever thought I would. I am not good enough to care, right? Is this good, bad or indifferent...in your opinion?

Hey All, So I have been fortunate enough to spend a fair amount of time hitting balls on an AboutGolf simulator this winter. i am generally alot happier with my ball flight most of the time. My question is around the differences of what the sim calls a push, a push draw and a draw. many times the swing feels the same and the ball flight is generally starting right and drawing ever so slightly. I can obviously see a straight push...it starts right and keeps right...but what swing difference can make a push into a push-draw or draw? I am not feeling the difference in most cases. thanks.

First round of 2012 will be tomorrow...in Minneapolis. A first for me, playing outdoors in MN in January.

I applaud your choices. Thank you. I am not so much complaining as wondering. Sure, maybe the 500 yards over 18 holes isn't an issue. Maybe it is. Just trying to understand the thought process. You are absolutely entitled to play whatever tees you want...you paid the freight. But not being able to clear the forced carry just to say you played "the tips" seems... Sue me.

Why, why, why...do people insist on playing "from the tips" when they have NO chance of breaking, say, 90. None. Like 123. "Couldn't make a putt" Is that fun? Do they ENJOY struggling just so that they can say they played from "the backs?" Is it total D-Bag prerequisite to do so?? Would it kill them to play the tees that suit their game and the course they have chosen to darken? HELP ME UNDERSTAND. Thanks.

I am not mentally fried...but my body is telling me to shut it down for a bit. My swing has totally devolved as I have just plain hit too many balls and I think I am getting lazy with my swing. So some time off seems to be in order and I will just putt for a couple weeks. We have Golfchannel on 16 hours a day at the simulator...and I do get tired of "Playing Lessons with the Pros" re-runs and awful commericals for Cialis and the like. But it hasn't changed my enthusiasm for the game. Yet.

I found a part time gig at an indoor golf simulator. I am getting paid to hit balls.

Personally, I root for anyone to beat Miguel Angel Jimenez. Every week. Sergio seems to have his putting figured out to some degree...I don't think his tee to green play was ever really in question. will be interesting to see how his putting holds up in the majors.

1. Stogie guy. You stink and you are a cliche. Please go play with Pro Shop guy, he has the new Nike 20XI hat AND balls...he might break 100 this week! 2. Cut off sleeve t-shirt guy. Come on...was the wife-beater in the laundry? 3. The "whaddya think? Smooth wedge?" guy standing over his first drive in the fairway all day with 147 to the front. 4. The "pick it up" guy. As he stands over his 4th putt for a crowd pleasing 9.