MellowYellow

Yep I agree as long as there's no lightning, the hell with it just go. I usually find that when Im out on the course walking the rain isnt as severe as it looks when looking out at the puddles on the street or driving in yoru car, and after the first 2 holes it cant get any worse anyway you're already soaked so what the hell? The best part is usually the course is yours at this point too. Hit some extra drives, hit a shot your going to play then try to hit a few more 'fancy' ones and see if you could have done better if you werent playing so safe. Then after the round say... Yeah I shot ok, i got a xx but if it was dry I probably could have knocked at LEAST THIS many strokes off... and strut back to the club house.

So gsu, this is a little off topic, but why CANT you hit over 120 with your 6 iron? Is it one of those deals where your PW goes 100, your 9 goes 120, but so does your 8,7,6,5,4 because the longer clubs arent hitting as pure? Do you have an odd swing?

Not only that, if you're worrying about not hitting the people in front of you, or worrying "are they going to get pissed after I hit this, is it going to get too close?" That's just one extra thing you have to block out while taking your shot... I dont need any extra obstacles in my game.. golf is hard enough.

Yeah come on, I said two or three times I wasnt trying to offend you and I'm definitely not saying I'm BETTER than you. I was saying if I was on the green with no idea what someones handicap was or whatever, and they hit from 140 yards, which to me seems SUPER close, and then said "My 6iron only goes 120 you were safe!" I would have THOUGHT (not that you DO suck but i would have THOUGHT) that you suck at golf and you could have easily hit me, becuase most people even people that putt from one side of the green to the other can still get ahold of a club and hit it 140 yards, that's really not very far, I cant hit a PW there like the previous poster, but im sure everyone here has a club they can hit ATLEAST 140, so why would I believe you truly were laying up, I would BELIEVE that you tried to hit the green and came up short. Now here on the forum, I hear you say you were laying up, so fine I believe you, but my previous post was taken 100% from the perspective of the people you hit into, I would never believe someone would try and lay up from 140 yards.

I love the rain. A few of the guys that refused to go in the wet conditions always refered to me as a 'mudder' :D Usually the courses are wide open. Even here in Seattle, where it's almost the norm. Anyway, 1 good thing ive noticed about the rain is it helps my putting a lot, it seems you can hit the ball quite a bit harder and leave more room for error, anyone else noticed this? I always play winter rules, if it's in a mud puddle or in SUPER soppy mud, move the ball, no reason to get TOO crazy with it, I usually would back the ball up a little when this happens anyway just so i didnt feel i was cheating. Definitely club up, and definitely move the ball back in your stance, that is EXACTLY what i learned to do. We had SO SOOO much rain this year it was even odd for us, and I had not one but TWO occassions where I hit a nice shot in the pouring rain off the fairway, looked around and couldnt see it, I kept staring down the fairway but never saw the ball bouncing... hmm... I know the feeling of a good impact and that was it... that ball HAD to be in the fairway.. I glanced around then looked down at my divot... i got a hunch, reached into the deep mud down deep and BAM there it was burried TOTALLY out of sight about 3 inches deep, it was so wet that when I hit down on the ball instead of it exploding upward off the club face it just burried in the mud LOL. The 2nd time it didnt take me nearly as long to find it, after that I tried sweeping it more on super soppy ground, or if it was just straight mud, i moved it a few feet away, my socks were ALWAYS soaked after...

Give your home course $35 to establish a number? I dont get it, Like ive said in lots of posts this is ALL foreign to me sandman, can you explain please?

I'll give you $10 for it Sandman, I was in a store looking to buy a lob wedge, and I wanted to go in and practice hitting a few 60degrees just for an idea but some dude was hogging the drive cage. He kept hitting drivers OVER and OVER hitting the matt first. He'd do it twice, then go grab a different driver... Meanwhile having his son continue to hit while he was gone to make sure i couldnt get back in, i was in there, went to change clubs and let him in cause i heard him asking the store rep about a driver he wanted to buy and to hit it... little did i know he wasnt going to stop til he found one that wouldnt hit the ground before the ball... I didnt know that was a property of drivers.. but I'm newer to the game so... What would one look for when buying a 60 degree club though? They all felt pretty similar to me.

This really isn't meant to be insulting to you but here is what goes through my head in that situation if I am them. What the hell did you hit from ThAT Close OBVIOUSLY you could reach us because 140 yards is NOTHING. .. What? You say you cant hit your 6 iron more than 120 yards so you knew we were safe??? Well in my mind if you arent really old, then not being able to hit a 6 iron over 120 means you arent very good ( no offense im not that good either) and people that arent very good Can NOT tell me how far they can and cant hit their clubs. 140 is WAY too close to be hitting into anyone, also if you KNEW your 6 iron only goes 120 why not wait and hit your 5 Iron?

Hi Munkey, I looked at your score card and it looks really nice, a Lot more information than they give at Yahoo... But when I went to the course and clicked on the state of Washington, it had NO COURSES listed??? Then I click on the state of Nevada just out of curiosity and only 2 show up? Am i doing something wrong or is this just in a VERY infintile state at the moment?

I've gone golfing the last 3 days in a row, I always walk and I carry my bag, My legs aren't in pain but they are definitely stiff, but DAMNIT reading this thread REALLY MAKES ME WANT TO GET OUT THERE AGAIN!!

I like that there are an unlimited amount of courses. There are SOO many different holes to see and play, it's never the same, and really even in the same course it isnt the same since the pin and tee boxes move, some holes require LARGE changes for changes involved in tees and pin placement. And the fact that you always have something else to keep working on. For example, in basketball you can hit a shot nothing but net... PERFECT. In golf unless it's a par 3, you arent sinking it in 1, so there isnt an EXACT perfect ANYTHING, you can always try to change something, but mainly just the EVER changing aspect of the course, the holes etc... Compare that to most sports, bowling, always the same lane, basketball, always the same length courts and regulation hoops etc. Golf gets pretty creative at times.

What do you guys use for figuring your handicap indexes? I use the handicap tracker on yahoo because it was the first I noticed, it's free and at least it seems ok to me, what do you use and what features make you choose it? How much does it cost? Thanks Mel

Well it says your handicap index is 360??? are you hitting the ball WITH your back? I've had lots of back pain before, i think usually the lower back is the scarier or more serious stuff, but I'm definitely not a doctor, hopefully you just strained a muscle. I went golfing once at about 6am once cause i couldnt sleep, they put me with a group where one of the 2 already teed off, i ran down to the tee and hit away without getting a chance to stretch or warm up, after the 3rd hole or so my chest and upper back hurt really bad, stretching helped some but it was pretty painful for a week or so, I definitely take time to get loose before golfing now, especially really early when im more stiff anyway... Hopefully it's just something minor, but if it persists you should definitely figure it out Good luck..

Actually what I usually do when I see a ball that I am 90% sure is lost that is kind of out of the way, Ill finish the hole I'm on, come back the other way and THEN go get it if it's there... of course this only works when it's inbetween your fairway and the next hole, not your fairway and the last since I'm not wasting 3 minutes to cross 2 fairways and dodge shots. Golfing detective, I live on the West coast and have also heard that stereotype before I started golfing. I didnt beleive it and thought people were just being dumb. I've only had ONE ball stolen that I know of, we teed off a hole that dog legs left so you actually want to hit over trees left of the tee box, I did just that, we saw it bounce in the rough between our 10th fairway and the 9th, but instead of rolling down the hill into the midle of the 10th fairway like normal i hit SOMETHING and it took a 90 degree turn into the 9th fairway. I was the last to hit off so we walked down and we saw an older asian lady walking up right in the general area, my ball was NO WHERE to be found and there was nothing we could think of to hide it.. She looked back a few times and that was the answer to our unasked question... I still dont think ALL asians steal your ball or hit into you or whatever, but it DID kind of suck that the one time I got jacked it was by an older asian lady.

Thanks for the advice/support guys. So... when do you start getting all the chicks? I used to think it was 100, got there and... hmm not much of an increase... Now I've shot under 90.. and although I THOUGHT i saw some girls up at the club house after 18, they turned out to just be a few ladies that worked in the restaurant... what's going on here?

Wow, I went and had a short 30 minute lesson on Sunday, the guy told me I was standing with my feet WAY too far apart which was hurting my balance and that I need to swing on a circular plain, instead of trying to swing straight back and straight forward which I always thought was what you were supposed to do. It made a lot of sence, turning in one piece with the shoulders etc. Basic concepts like this sometimes pass me by since i have NO family and few friends that golf. Obviously it usually makes you worse before better when learning new stuff like this, but I went with my gf to a par 3 that night and was hitting ok, but sometimes pulled my shots a little left since i wasnt used to coming in like that. But today I went back to my course where i just shattered my old score with 90 and shot an 87! 43 on the front 9, started off with a double bogey on 1 when i was only 15 feet off the green and 10 feet from the edge of the green to the pin in 2 but sucked on my next TWO chips (yes TWO chips from 10 feet out) but then parred the next 3 holes, and after a double bogey on 7 I parred 9 coming in 2 under bogey golf at the turn, A par on 10 and I was feeling great but then I get a double bogey on the next TWO holes... I bogeyed the next 4 holes which bummed me out since i needed a par to be back on pace for bogey golf on the back 9, and several I SHOULD have parred but choked on an approach shot, a chip or a putt. Then finally I parred 17 and 18 and ended up 1 under bogey again for the 87! I actually wasnt even very happy with my chipping at all which is usually my strongest point, so now that my irons were going a bit better, Im pretty sure I could even score a tad lower in the next few rounds. uhm... WOOHOO!

LOL Meenman Finding 3 balls in one round from the Golf god Pretty funny. My friend sometimes will find scared up balls on the course somewhere and he puts them in crazy spots to give people stories to tell... Right in the hollow of a tree, balanced ontop of a large rock etc.

Can you explain the points game or give a link to where it was first please?

Not that it is SUPER important, since even if you got 101 you were in position to break 100 last time out Mr.Meen, but DID you break 100? A bogey for 99 on the last hole gives you a good chance, but a bogey is DEFINITELY NOT guaranteed for those of us that dont shoot at least 90, since a bogey average is a handicap of 18. So did you hold it together for the last hole not counting the 8 you hit into the woods off the tee box to start with?

I LOVE FINDING GOLF BALLS!!! I mean it! Nothing makes me happier after just getting a 7 on the last par 4 than going around the corner and finding an ALMOST new REALLY SHINY Nike Juice, or maybe a really cool Noodle with a neat logo. I get SUPER HAPPY. But... not so happy that I've EVER taken anyone elses ball that was playing it/looking for it... The closest I ever got was once when I was still VERY new to playing, I think it was my 3rd round ever? My dad was just walking the course with me for exercise, it was getting pretty late, to where we'd be lucky to get in 9, not many golfers were out on the course and he saw a ball somewhat in a bush, we looked around didnt see anyone, and it was wide open, didnt seem like there was anywhere for anyone to hide, he grabbed it up, I finished the hole and we were teeing off the next when we saw two guys looking ALL OVER for it, they had just come off the first tee, we could see the 1st tee box but all we could figure was they were looking for the other guys' ball in the trees on the other side of the fairway cause we definitely didnt see them. We felt really bad but not bad enough to give it back... i mean man... They had two bags full of clubs, you never know when someone is just outright CRAZY! So anyway, ever since that I've been SUPER paranoid about grabbing a ball, I look ALL OVER, ask people if it's theirs even when they almost couldnt have hit it over there etc. So I guess what I'm trying to say is, I promise I wont steal your ball, but MAN I LOVE FINDING THEM!

I started 2 years ago had ZERO friends or family that had EVER played, there WAS no golf in my small ass school, my buddy invited me to the range, he had some 2nd hand clubs and had just started himself. I got addicted instantly, Im a really big dude, so i didnt have the instant coordination, but I was pretty sure i could get there, so I started going to driving ranges and sneaking out their stock clubs that you were supposed to pay $2 to use hitting balls.. and then finally talked my gf into letting me buy a $100 set off of amazon.com that had everything from putter, SW - fairway woods and driver. We played Par 3s that summer, it scared the HELL out of me at first, then I took 4 group lessons with about 10 other people that were about 1 1/2 hours long. I wish I had gone to the real courses sooner because i think you learn WAY more out there than par 3s, but, i was intimidated, the holes looked SOOO damn long :D Anyway back to the question... Winter came, no golfing, spring came and I started going with a guy from work to real courses, I was really bad with Driver and 4irons + since i never needed them at executives, But I believe about 1 1/2 months in I finally broke 100... BUT that was using our friendly "1 muligan per side" rule. I broke it legitamitely the next time out, and for the rest of the year rarely went over again. This year starting in Spring again I KEPT getting just over 100, which seemed really odd cause i felt pretty good about my game, then recently ive gotten it back together and just shot 90 two weeks ago, I figured a strange technique with my driver where I'm hitting probably 80% of the fairways now and that has helped a ton. Back to this crazy Mr.Meen sandman argument, I really dont see why ANYONE can argue with sandmans suggestion, I've never tried it, BUT... If you are calling it PRACTICE how can you say it wont help? It's just like saying, Go to the driving range and practice. "NO, I'm going to do it the REAL WAY" Ok fine.. Go to the putting green and practice.. "HELL NO, Im going to do it the REAL WAY" Get some lessons and practice "I dont THINK SO, I'm going to do it the RIGHT WAY" I dont see how this is considered the wrong way.. it's just supposed to be practice.. how can PRACTICE be wrong, unless you are practicing how to putt by picking up the ball and bowling it toward the hole.. But hmm.. even then youd probably get more familiar with reading greens... I think he has a fundamental problem with the fact that it's the LADIES tees.. I think if the red tees were called the STUD TEEs it'd be A-Ok, if you can practice on a driving range why cant you practice from the Red Stud Tees? I dont get it. I think Mr.Meen REALLY TRULY IS Eric Cartman, I kept hearing his voice as I read the posts... :D

hey guys i appreciate the responses... Basically what I've gathered is this: If i want to get better I've got to definitely try it more conventional and figure out the basics, for now I'll keep doing my old way when im out playing since i hit the fairways most times and 225-250 is fine on my short courses (playing from the whites) See my problem is i have NO family background and VERY few friends that golf so a lot of these terms and concepts are foreign to me, for instance, having your body curl around your hips and what not, I dont really understand this, so I have a lot to learn for sure, perhaps i'll just have to pay for lessons, Im pretty reflective at the driving range though, so maybe ill try and figure out what im doing wrong and what your supposed to do with these tips... but for instance i have NO CLUE what "more lag in your club" means Im guessing something about the club being behind my hands and weight transfer? I really dont know... and have no one in real life to ask...

thanks for all the replies guys, I really dont have many golfing buddies, so I always want to bounce golf comments off someone but they all just kind of go "yeah... sweet.... anyway about that underaged prostitute i was talking about...." and that's that.. when i first posted this i was thinking I'd get the same reaction, and was like, No one cares why did you write that crap. Anyway yeah it was really exciting to do so well, bogeyhitter, i suspect if you are like i was when i shot 106 all the time that if you WANTED to you could just use your 8 iron or 9 iron for ALL your long shots over 130 and just keep hitting with that and crush your score, using whatever club you are most comfortable with, but if you keep getting that high of a score you realize that you shouldnt play to try and get a 99 or something because that really isnt the goal and you always have to keep trying to use the right club for the situation... So even though you KNOW that if you use your 9 iron twice from 240 you'll be on in 3 you pull out your 5 wood knowing you'll likely hit it like crap and be 155 out after your 2nd shot... hang in there man and I hope you start hitting the ball cleaner and get below 100, I know it was a cool feeling for me when i finally escaped triple digits and once i did it i hardly ever went back over again for the rest of that playable season (except for the reallly tough courses) Dent, Thanks for the comments and everyone else as well, but I guess it's a LOT more possible for ME to shoot 11 under my handicap when my handicap is more than +1/hole :D thanks just the same though :D I sometimes wonder if it's less interesting/fun once you are shooting about +7 or so everytime....

hey docmao that sounds like a great idea, adding the pressure to it. I remember last year when getting a par was still a huge deal for me (well it's still a pretty big deal but back then I maybe got 1 par ever 36 holes so i would get NERVOUS) and I remember I missed a putt once from about 2 feet for par cause I was so nervous and the other 3 guys were watching me, I left it about A FOOT SHORT!!!! it was ridiculous. The pressure part CERTAINLY is a good idea, I think I'm going to try that, maybe not 50 times but something similar. Thanks for the idea.

I hit the ball and pray it goes straight? I am more aggressive with clubs based on my comfort level with them. My driver, PW, 9 and 8 I am aggressive with relative to my other clubs cause I feel I get the desired results most often. My 5 wood or 7 iron (why is my 7 iron cursed I dont know??) I need a WIDE margin for error because I never know when my 5 wood is going to shoot off at about a 30 degree angle to the right of where i was aiming, on a tight fairway this can be DEVISTATING!