scopek
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Can someone explain was the "cp pattern" is?
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Sorry if this is off topic...I've read that Robert Rock's swing is based on MORAD concepts. Maybe Rock's teacher was trained by Mac O'Grady? Does anyone know if this is true?
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I am so frustrated and want to quit golf
scopek replied to golftlist's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Thanks for the offer! I'm actually in Maryland now. I really miss Ann Arbor and Michigan. One of the best places I've lived. Great state. -
I am so frustrated and want to quit golf
scopek replied to golftlist's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
This is what my relationship is like with golf: -
IMO, I think saying that a 5SK instructor is "much more qualified" then a S&T is an over generalization. This is nothing against 5SK's approach. There are great S&T instructors and I'm sure there are bad S&T instructors. If you go down the S&T route you have to find someone that has a good reputation and who you'll work well with. I think the issue is that some S&T instructors get too caught up on teaching the swing in one way and become rigid about what they're teaching. I've worked with S&T instructors who are not rigid. You can try to learn S&T from a book and the videos, but unless you're incredibly talent, I think it's a waste of time. You really need a good instructor.
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No need to give credit as far as I'm concerned. I've always been a big supporter of S&T. But I have, admittedly, struggled recently. Debating about going back to evolvr. Just had trouble with not having the instructor to ask real time questions so I went back to my original S&T instructor (who is now a 5SK instructor), but the 2 hours drive was prohibitive. But it's damn hard to find a good instructor close by.
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You guys are ruining my image of S&T. It's one thing to have a bad experience with a random S&T instructor. It's another to have it with the man, Mike Bennett, himself.
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Lead with right elbow? Closing he door?
scopek replied to Dave325's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
We all do it. I've struggled with tinkering with my swing for years and it really held me back. It wasn't until I just decided to become a "stupid monkey" (not sure that terms is used here anymore) that I started making "real" progress. It's slow, but it takes time to ingrain real change. -
Lead with right elbow? Closing he door?
scopek replied to Dave325's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Here is a video of a guy, Monte Scheinblum, who advocates leading with the right elbow. A lot of golfers swear by this guy. -
Ok, thank you. Maybe I should ask, what *should* the path of the right shoulder be as the hips slide? I did a search, but didn't find much. Do you have a link for a YouTube clip from the 5SK's or something else you could recommend?
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I have a question about the relationship between the shoulders (specially the right shoulder) and the hip slide on the downswing....When I'm sliding or moving laterally toward the left and therefore causing a tilt in my spine, should the right shoulder be moving down toward more toward my right foot rather then out? I've been working on my hip slide and noticed that if I start pushing my right shoulder down, it pushes my hip to start sliding laterally and lets me swing more from the inside. Does this sound correct?
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I feel like that his something that they don't talk very much about in S&T. The only time I think they mention arm speed on the videos when they talk about pulling the left arm down off the chest from the top of the backswing to get to impact (i.e. releasing the 4th accumulator?).
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Thanks. So essentially, the power is primarily from the knees pushing off the ground (extension to flexion) while the hips slide and then are pushed forward past impact?
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Ok. So what causes the most of the leverage or extension in the backswing and follow through? The hips and arms? If my memory is correct, Mike and Andy talk about the change in tilt from the spine changing to being a powerful source of power. I remember where Andy is doing the axe man demonstration and showing how the spine changes. Is that not correct or are we talking about two different things?
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Do you have a link to a video or thread that discusses the difference between how you guys describe the hips vs. the S&T description of the spine?
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Ok, makes sense, I think. But honestly I haven't spent a lot of time thinking or trying to understand these aspects of the swing. Still working on keys 2 and 3.
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excuse my ignorance, but why?
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To give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just aren't tech savy and aren't reading those posts?
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Thanks, Erik. Makes sense about the extending vs. tilting. It would be interesting to get Mike or Andy's take on the head movement.
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How do you know Bennett and Plummer are advocating or allowing that? (I ask that with complete sincerity, BTW.) I'm obviously not a S&T expert or pro, but I've never read or had any S&T instructor advocating anything but a steady head and centered pivot. I've seen drills where instructors will ask to exaggerate the side tilt on the backswing by trying to get the *feel* of the head moving forward, but it was always clear that the head should be steady as much as possible through the actual swing.
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Bump. I'm moving to Baltimore in a few months and also looking for a new instructor in the same vain--S&T and/or 5SKs. I'll check out Mark Russo, but wondering if anyone else is around just to have another person to look up. Thanks!
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I'd try Darren Hopwood. I've never had a lesson with him, but I've had direct contact with him online. He is much more about having students develop a functional golf swing vs. being a "literal" S&T; instructor. He's very knowledgable and a great guy.
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I am switching to Universal Swing!
scopek replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Oh, it's real my friend, it's real. -
I am switching to Universal Swing!
scopek replied to Phil McGleno's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
You beat me to it! I was just going to post that....Well, I've gotta say, I was hoping this was an elaborate joke, but it's looks like it's real. I've lost all faith in my fellow man...