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Slim 11, I can understand your interpretation of the rule. I don't know for sure which interp is correct, maybe there is a rules official on this board who can give us an opinion... Anyway, its an interesting discussion. And I definitely agree that the rule will speed play (if only more people took advantage!)
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After finding his ball in the hazard, he can then go back and hit another ball. But he cannot hit a provisional for that situation before finding the ball in the hazard. Or maybe you are saying that because he wasn't virutally certain that his ball was in the hazard that it was OK to hit the provisional? That makes sense, I guess. Never really thought of it that way, not sure. The way I read the rule, once he finds his ball in the hazard, he has to play that ball because the provisional is for a lost ball, not a ball in a hazard.
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I think you are wrong about this. To play strictly to the rules, you cannot simply make your provisional the ball in play if you find your ball in a hazard. You have to at that time go back and hit another shot, or take your drop. This is because a provisional can only be played if your ball is lost outside of a hazard or is OB.
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I am not a rules expert, but here's what I think. First, you are not allowed to play a provisional for a ball in a water hazard. So if you played the provisional in case the ball went OB, then found your ball in the hazard, you have to play the ball in the hazard. I.e, you have to drop or replay the original shot with a one stroke penalty. If you knew that your ball went into the hazard, then your "provisional" immediately becomes the ball in play at that point. But you can't hit the provisional, then see the ball in the hazard, and say "well, in that case I'll just take my provisional with a one stroke penalty." Hope that makes sense.
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I've had one in my 6 years of golf... had a great drive on a shortish par-4, then jarred a 60 yard pitch.
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I don't get it either. Just a troll, added to my ignore list. When you hit "mark", your current distance from the mark should show in a little red box at the bottom right corner of the screen. Sometimes is takes a few seconds after you wake it up to get a lock. If you don't have the red box in the corner, you probably need to update your firmware.
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I used to think that I needed a low-bounce wedge for hardpan. Then I switched to the Utley style of pitching. Based on something he says in his book, I tried using a 56 with 11 degrees of bounce to hit off concrete. No problem (It was an old worn out Vokey)
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Professors Who Analyzed 1.6 Million Putts
mruseless replied to SubPar's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Wow Dave, and I thought I was a golf nerd! (I say that affectionately!) Good stuff! -
Pelz or Mickelson...Which one!
mruseless replied to Marinemike's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
I should note that I play with a *slightly* open clubface, and do hit an inch or two behind the ball. The main difference in the Utley style is setup, and using a very steep wristy swing. Hard to describe. Anyway, I was a terrible bunker player before, so its possible that my improvement is just due to more practice... or its in my head. Either way, its working so I won't mess with it! -
Pelz or Mickelson...Which one!
mruseless replied to Marinemike's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Once I got the hang of Utley's bunker style, I find it MUCH easier to get the ball out. It even spins and checks up sometimes. -
Pelz or Mickelson...Which one!
mruseless replied to Marinemike's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
I would consider Stan Utley's book as well. It really helped me. And I used to be a Pelz guy (I still am, from about 100 yards to about 30 yards.) But I think which style will work for you depends on you. Are you a feel player? Or are you more mechanical when you stand over the ball? When you were looking for an instructor, did you prefer those that analyzed every little aspect of your swing and put you on video? Or did you prefer instructors that focused on swinging loosely and "letting the club swing you"? If you favor the analytical and mechanical aspects, I think Pelz will work well for you. If you favor "feel", then Utley will probably work better. -
Professors Who Analyzed 1.6 Million Putts
mruseless replied to SubPar's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
If you can't reach the par 4's in two, you should move up a set of tees, even if its to the reds (but I do know how the male ego plays into this!). This study jives very well with my personal experience, I used to think that the difference between the blue and white tees didn't matter much. But this year I started playing from the whites, thinking that I'll move back when I can consistently shoot in the 80's from the whites. And guess what? My scores are significantly lower from the whites, even when the difference is only a couple hundred yards. The difference ends up being in the number of greens I can reach on my second shot. Disclaimer: I still put in most of my practice time on the green and short game. -
Yup, I freely admit that one approach won't work for everyone. And you certainly do need some touch to make the "one club" (or in my case "two club") approach work well. The main reason I depend on feel is because I found that trying to make my swing the same every day was difficult. It added a bunch more variables like how I felt that day, if I was angry or not, how much caffeine or beer I had in me, etc, etc. I found that I spent a lot of time trying to "feel" that my swing was the same as on other days. So I figured if I'm working on feel in that sense, I might as well try to feel how far the ball is going to travel too. It was an interesting journey for me.
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I know for me personally, my short game started improving when I changed from trying to use a bunch of different clubs to just one or two. I believe that with limited practice time, I gain more benefit from focusing on the use of one or two wedges from a variety of lies, distances, and conditions. Just my opinion for what its worth.
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I think there is a lot of valuable stuff in the book, but the real transformation in my game for was when I changed to the Stan Utley style of chipping and putting. One of these days I plan to post about my "short game journey". But one style is not right for everyone, you should try many styles and settle on the one that feels comfortable and works for you.
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I did count my pitching wedge, so I answered 4. I think 4 would be winning if people would have counted their PW. Anyway, I carry a PW (matched to my set), a 52-8, 56-11, and a 60-6. When I replace my 60 I'll probably get one with more bounce, like 8 deg or even 10 degrees.
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I live in Colorado, and as Fourputt said, the bent grass greens don't have much grain. This might be a big "duh", but where I pay a lot of attention to grain is when chipping greenside from the rough.
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I live in Colorado where its pretty dry, but even in Hawaii my hands don't sweat enough to need a glove. So I don't wear one. If it looks like rain, sometimes I carry a pair of rain gloves, and I often wear one in the early season until my hands callous up a bit.
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One thing that drives me nuts about golf is the way I'm never satisfied. I used to think, "wow, shooting in the 80's is pretty good golf. I'd be happy with that." Now that I can shoot in the 80's about half the time, I keep thinking, "I let so many opportunities go this round. If only I could shoot in the low 80's." And of course, when I get to the low 80's, I'll want to be in the 70's. Damn this game :)
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Congrats!! My first day in the 80's was not that long ago.
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I couldn't understand half of what you wrote, but I have to side with Fourputt on this one. There is no harm in playing multiple balls if there is no one behind you (I can't tell if there was or wasn't from your description), but the cutting around the course would get you thrown out in a few of the places I play.
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Its changed for me as my handicap comes down. Driving and long clubs used to be my big weak spot, and putting was pretty good. Now my driving game is getting much better (hitting 50% of fairways and sometimes better), and my up and downs are getting better. So now, I feel putting is my weakest area. I only putt about 32 times a round, but its because I don't hit many greens. So I have lots of UD chances where I two putt from inside 10 feet. Gotta improve on that!
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Agree. My thoughts exactly. This is off topic, and I don't mean to be picky here, but in the first paragraph you say the course is a goat pasture, and in the second you say the course is in great shape. Are you talking about 2 different courses?
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I've also played BBB when people are of radically different skill levels, but we play it like this: 1 point for closest to the hole 1 point for longest putt 1 point for fewest putts Its short game only, as you can tell, and I've found it really evens things out. The only problem is that the better players can strategically try to miss the green so they can chip close and get the "closest" point, and maybe the "fewest" point.
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I actually want someone on my line behind me when I'm driving. More eyes on the ball in case I hit a poor one.