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By why would they? You need an accurate par to calculate your "playing handicap", to determine what net double bogey is and to score in forms of play such as Stableford.
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I started to write about the definition of lie but deleted it. He was trying to compare what Reed did to someone sticking a tee in the rough and putting his ball on it. Under the definition of lie I don't see where sand behind the ball fits in. While we know sand is not a loose impediment does it fall under "attached natural object?" Sand isn't attached, a gust of wind could blow it away. Clearly though 8.1a(4) says you can't "remove or press down sand or loose soil.".
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Same gender, not across.
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Par will not differ on a hole by gender based on the difference in tee length. If most of the tees rated for men are a par 5 then all will be played as a par five even if one forward tee is only par 4 length. See page 101. https://www.usga.org/content/dam/usga/pdf/Handicap/Rules-of-Handicapping_USGA_Final.pdf
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That's covered in the new Rules of Handicapping. It specifically lists a situations like that and say it's fine that it is still a par 5.
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He didn't touch his ball.
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Correct. The differences allow some determination based on effective playing length and obstacles.
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It is recommended that par be established for each hole in accordance with the following hole lengths: Par 3: Men Up to 260 yards (240 metres); Women Up to 220 yards (200 metres) Par 4: Men 240 to 490 yards (220 to 450 metres); Women 200 to 420 yards (180 to 380 metres) Par 5: Men 450 to 710 yards (410 to 650 metres); Women 370 to 600 yards (340 to 550 metres) Par 6: Men 670 yards and up (610 metres and up); Women 570 yards and up (520 metres and up) Source: Appendix F: Rules of Handicapping
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You are both wrong. Under 8.1 he was improving "The area of the player's intended swing."
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Why would you want the scorecard to show it as a par 5, if the scoring record is calling it a par 4? They used one of my courses as an example when talking about this. It's a par 5 on the course's scorecard and is 440 from the back tee, too short to be a 5 under the new guidelines, and when the MGA has events there they'll play it up a bit and call it a par 4 on their card. It's uphill and has a couple of bunkers that encroach the landing area off the tee. The last 90 yards are straight uphill and covered in rough. They said in that case if it was the architects intent that it be played as a par 5 in normal play it could stay a par 5 under the new handicap system.
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On our last few e-revisions there has been a link that tells you what your index will be under the new calculation. On the first two mine was going down 0.1 and up 0.1 on the last ones. Unless you have some big variation in your 9th and 10th best scores from your best 8 average it shouldn't be a significant change. Some people with an inconsistent scoring pattern will definitely see a change.
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The biggest issue for places going live in January is the new stroke allocation for determining what holes you get your strokes for your net double bogey, and the second one is if they will change the par on any holes on a course to meet the new guidelines. Par didn't matter in the old calculation but it will now. There are many course with par 5's that are a bit short that may now need to be par 4's. My active season doesn't resume until April but when I asked in my seminar when we would get that I was told March.
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Michelle Wie? Between all the "um" and giggles she is not a very good speaker. I hope they can fix that before they put her on the air. Her playing career will end early just like Dottie Pepper's did, not because she can't play, but because the injuries won't allow her to practice enough to stay at the level needed to compete.
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Two Players Penalized at LPGA Q-Series for Not Knowing Rule
RemyM replied to RemyM's topic in Rules of Golf
Okay one last time. Here is the shot of Lexi Thompson's caddie on a par 3. So basically if your group is on TV you can flash signals of your club but if your not, you can't. I know the signal is intended for the guy with the microphone and not the fellow competitor looking at it, but she still sees it. I liken this to the extra scrutiny players on TV used to get and had penalties assessed since there was video evidence of what they did, while a player not on TV might have done the same thing but no one saw it. The rules were changed to limit how video can be used to assess penalties, the naked eye exception. My whole point in all this was to show what the correctly penalized player at Q School meant when she "sees it all the time," I never said the players at the Tour Championship should have been penalized. Obviously some of you don't think it's a big deal, but some people didn't think caddies lining up a player was a big deal, or anchoring a putter was a big deal, but others did and the rules were changed. I'm entitled to my opinion and I think this practice should be stopped even if others don't and I certainly should not have been insulted for expressing my opinion.