mev

I definitely play better fully rested and awake, but I won't not play because i am tired or sleepy. I may choose to ride instead of walk if i'm really tired, but I'll still play if I've previously planned to. I might not play my best round, might even play towards my worst round, but I'm still on the golf course having a good time, which is better than many alternatives.

FINALLY A CHAMPIONSHIP IN PHILLY!!!!!!!!!!! Of all the teams, I'm glad the Phils got it. I had a chance to go tonight, a friend couldn't make it and was going to give me his ticket stub. Unfortunately i couldn't make it either. Now for the birds to keep the train rolling...

Beautiful game tonight, couldn't have been better. Made up for leaving men on base. 1 more night!!

what about putting in from the fringe for a double bogey, or lagging from the fringe, tap-in for triple? Up and down?

Your Boy Matt Ryan has a lot of potential. I think he'll be a good quarterback soon. That said, he's got his work cut out for him this weekend. Go Birds!! (eagles, that is)

I would say it would be equivalent to hitting a brick or missing wide on a half court shot, not actually getting the basket. He's missing the fairway. Maybe he's using the HAMMER - POWWWWWWWW!

I don't read every post, but I don't see too many 20+ handicappers bragging about 300 yard averages. In fact, I can't recall of any, at least on this forum. I suspect you guys are all talking about people you meet on the course.

I am under the impression that I would be happy playing bogey golf. Something tells me that if I get there, I won't be happy with it anymore. I'll want to be a single handicap... It's my goal to be a 16-18 cap next year. This year it was to break 100, which I've done about 6 times. Most other scores fall in the 103 to 107 range. I'd say a lot of people are bogey golfers when they improve their lie, don't count penalty strokes, and don't count the duffed chip shots that only go two feet.

I like it, it's nice and small and the yardage is accurate. I haven't read any reviews of people not liking it, other than the belt clip.

For your game, or any decent golfer, yes it is useless. For the guy that only plays once a month, it will help his game, and speed up their round.

I played with my brother and sister in law once, and she brought two clubs; a chipper and a putter. She had a lot of fun with it, and never saw the junk that I saw (sand, trees, deep rough), and beat me and my brother on a few holes. Every shot for her was right in the middle of the fairway. She's not a golfer by any means, but she is athletic. She had fun and that's all that matters.

It depends on who I am playing with. I haven't had a beer while playing in the last 10 to 15 rounds. I usually walk and drink water. After a round, I may grab a beer while I tally up my stats, but usually not more than one. I have a buddy that I play with sometimes where we'll have about 2 to 3 for the round. One time we each had a 6 pack, and by the time we got to the 16th tee, we were pretty stupid. One or two beers can help my game sometimes, after that it's downhill. Several beers = me going for it on every shot: cut the corner, carry the water, etc. I usually save the beer for afterwards.

In mid-August, me and a buddy just showed up on a Tuesday around 2pm. We were on the green course by 2:30 as a walk on, and could have played the red course if we wanted to wait until 3. I thoroughly enjoyed the green course, but it was a little slow that day as there was a really slow group in front of us. They let us play through after the fourth hole, but we got tied up again at the 10th. After 5 hours we called it quits on the 17th tee. It was already getting pretty dark, and the group in front was taking their dandy ass time looking for their tee shots. I had enough and teed off in the middle of the fairway, just as they were getting back into their carts. The rest if my group decided to jump to the 18th so we could finish, but again there was a group in the fairway walking around looking for their balls, so we left. It was a shame not to finish as I was having a good round. Bethpage is a beautiful place with an awesome clubhouse and patio. Go show up and play any course, you will not be disappointed. By the way, I got the NY rate without them even asking to see my license.

It may show up, probably not. With these lost club stories, I'm thinking about spray-painting my driver all black so if it gets lost, someone will think it's a piece of crap and just turn it in or leave it. Maybe a different color like bright orange so if I see it on the course in someones' bag, I can recognize it and take it back.

I was at the range a few years ago and saw a guy with one arm hitting balls extremely well, much better than me. He was hitting with his right arm, normal right hand stance. I admired him for not giving up the sport. If it works, go with it, but be prepared to always answer why you hit with one arm because everyone will ask, and many will chuckle - but who cares? Then again, if I were you, I'd try to figure out what was wrong with a two arm swing.

I play the regular CG4's and I love them. I'm not that good overall, but I hit my irons very well, and a pure shot feels great, nice and smooth. I had them fitted about a month and a half ago, and have finally adjusted to the new lie. I also put new decade grips on them, although the stock grips were nice. I'll be playing them for years to come as long as the soft metal holds up.

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Sounds like your a hell of a friend. Don't try to help him or anything, just keep telling him his swing is great. He'll keep doing what he's doing, scratching his head wondering what's wrong and why he can't hit it when his swing is good. I'm guessing he gets real frustrated after the third hole, and that's why you let up. Some friend. I'm all for joking around on the golf course, but it sounds like your contributing to his bad game.

Interesting, I didn't even know about that part of the site. What a coincidence that the review was put up last week. Oh well, maybe it will help someone else.

I searched the forum and didn’t see any full reviews on the iGolf Neo, so I thought I would share my experience. I bought this unit for $149 + tax at Golfsmith the other day (came to $160), and it comes with the unit, belt clip, usb cable and wall charger that the usb cable plugs into, plus software. This product is readily available on ebay for $149 shipped without tax, but I didn’t want to wait three or four days for it to arrive, so I went out and bought it. Of all the stores I called, only Golfsmith carried it, and three of the four Golfsmiths I called didn’t have it in stock. The one in Bridgewater NJ did. The unit has an internal rechargeable battery, and it came out of the box with a 60% battery charge, which would be more than enough of a charge to get through a round if you wanted to map a course yourself, or just check shot distances. Other than that, there’s not much you can do with it on a golf course without downloading courses. Membership to iGolf runs $35 which gives you 100 courses to download, which are yours to keep and use on other iGolf units you may have. You have a year to download the 100 courses. After that, you don’t have to subscribe anymore, but can’t download any more courses from them unless you do. You can play what you already have, and if the courses change, you’ll have to map the change yourself or re-subscribe. As far as I can tell, there is no guarantee that they will have the updated info anyway, but you can contact them and request a remap. I likely won’t resubscribe unless I know I am going to play a course that I absolutely need the yardages to. I can always play them the old fashioned way. The unit holds 10 courses at a time, is fairly small, and could easily fit on your pocket. I usually walk with a push cart, and chose to clip it to my bag since I normally have a bunch of stuff in my pockets already (score card, pencil, a couple tees, divot tool, ball marker, and of course, two balls….). The clip is a little flimsy, but it did not fall out in the one round that I played with it. I don’t think I would trust it clipped on my belt for a round, but even if it was sturdier, wouldn’t want it on my belt. It took less than a minute to locate the satellites, and it never lost them during my round. I played a links style course, so I can’t comment on reception in the trees. Once it’s on, you to push the OK button once to ‘play golf’, use the arrows to select the course, then push OK again, and it takes you to the first hole. Here is the default screen for each hole (*Note* the backlight is on in this pic, the screen protector is still on, and I took it from my house, three and a half miles from the course) You cannot change the default screen for the start of each hole, so you have to push the screen button on the bottom to cycle through the four screen options, which in order are 1) default - just to the center, as seen above, 2) Center front and back, 3) Center, custom 1 and 2, and 4) Center, custom 3 and 4. I’d prefer to be able to change the default to Center custom 1 and 2, which would show you the fairway bunkers, hazards, etc, but it was not a big deal for me. Here’s a pic of the center front and back. When you go to the next hole, you have to push the arrow up button which takes you to the default, then you’d have to push the screen button twice to get to the center custom 1 and 2 screen. Each hole has Center, Front and Back, plus four custom points. The courses that I’ve downloaded so far have all of the greenside bunkers preset, and usually a fairway bunker or hazard is preset as well. These are in place of the custom points, and you can change them if you want. Mapping a hole or changing a custom point is not hard, but involves pushing several buttons for the custom points. When on the hole, you push the esc/shot button and it takes you to map hole, push OK, select which point you want of the seven available (C,F,B, Custom1-4), select whether you want to use a preset name (creek, hazard, bunker, etc), you can name it yourself, or just register the point. If you name it yourself, it’s a pain to do because you can only navigate the letters with the arrow buttons, (as seen on the next pic) and you have to first delete what already there (EOF, CSTM1, etc). You cannot change the name for front, center or back. It takes a while to do, but you can do that while you are walking to the point, then just register the point when you are there. What I did on a few holes was set that up while others teed off, then registered the point when I got to it. If you are going to map a course, it will take some time and you have to push a bunch of buttons. If you’re by yourself, or if you ride, it may not be so bad, but it is time consuming. The good thing is that if you do just register the points, you can upload it to your PC at home and change the names there, and re-download it to the unit. Also, if you already know what you want to register, you can name them ahead of time and register it on the course. That would make it much quicker to mp a course. You still have to re-upload it to your PC though to make sure you have a backup copy. To measure the distance of a shot, push the ok/shot button from the start point, push it again to confirm, then again when you get to your ball. It will show the distance to center plus shot distance the whole time while it counts up yardage to your ball. After you get to the ball (or whatever you are measuring the distance of), and after you push the OK button again to confirm the shot distance, you push the esc/menu button to go back. Overall, I am pretty happy with the Neo. A lot of times I just referred to the front center and back numbers, and knowing the correct yardage gave me a lot of confidence in the club I selected for the distance, as any GPS and rangefinder will do. The yardages were very accurate for my course. Once I have all of the points mapped the way I want, it will severely reduce the amount of button pushing per hole. It’s by no means a hands free unit, but it’s not terrible either. With a 100% charge, a 4 hour round left me with a 90% charge. I did not use the backlight feature for this round. I considered the Sonocaddie XV2 as well, but I wanted to use the GPS soon, and Golfsmith did not have the XV2 in stock. If they had it, I likely would have bought it because it was $250 and there is no subscription fee. I’m $195 into the Neo, so the extra $55 may have been worth it, only to see all of the yardages on one screen instead of cycling through. I don’t personally care about the scorecard feature if I cannot count putts per hole, fairways hit, etc, on the unit itself. The v300 has it, but is much more expensive and requires a subscription. If you have any questions, shoot away!!

The launch monitor should tell you what angle the clubface is at through impact, which is definitely useful information regardless of skill level, IMO. If you find that you are constantly leaving the face open or closed, you can make adjustments and see right away if they are working. It will also tell you what your swing speed is, and if it varies from shot to shot. The launch angle is also pretty good information to have as well. I don't know how accurate the distance is, but you'll fell the good shots, and see if the hook/slice, etc. You can then try to use your muscle memory to remember the good ones and try and duplicate it. I took a few lessons on a launch monitor, and I could see the results of my changes right away, especially what's happening at impact.

I think he's looking for a comprehensive chart that shows the average stats for each handicap level, in particular sand saves, putts per GIR, penalties, etc. I'm guessing he's already keeping track of his own stats, whether it be with scorecard or other software, and he wants to see how he compares to the average 20 handicapper.

then don't post

$35 a year, and you can use it on all the iGolf units you have. To extrapolate, if four guys went in together and each pitched in $9, they could each get 25 courses, cutting their revenue dramatically. This system has a lot of potential to be abused, which could contribute to the demise of a company.

Good point, for about the price of a round I could keep it current. I usually play a rotation of about 10 to 15 courses anyway, and in the several years I've been playing them, the only thing that's changed is a few trees, and maybe a handful of bunkers. In each case, I've known about it before teeing off. Thanks for the info guys, I think I'll pull the trigger and post a review Saturday night. I figure it will work as long as I have the files, and I can update them if they change. I'm sure in two to three years' time the better ones will be a little cheaper.