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Just curious if anyone has it or tried it and what your thoughts are on it? I've seen some good reviews on it and am debating on pulling the trigger on one.

You could try setting it up over at pinhigh.co

This is the difficult part for me in scrambles. I try to just let everyone play their game when I'm on a scramble team, but it's hard when you KNOW everyone else is misreading a putt and simply won't listen to you. At the same time, I understand their point of view when I'm giving them a read that's way outside what they'd typically play and they're just not comfortable with it and would likely miss anyway. Had it happen more than a few times in the last couple weeks at different scrambles. One guy would always be the first to jump up and give everyone the (wrong) line and after the first guy or two misses, I'll then give them the correct line. Every. Single. Time. they under read the break of the putt (just like I used to prior to AimPoint Express). They read just a little bit of break and then try to hit it harder to keep it online which means they usually miss on the low side anyway and run it by the hole four feet.

Quote: Chief Executive Herbert Hainer admitted that two new golf clubs - the R15 and the AeroBurner drivers - had not sold well and competitors had been raising their game, but said he had high hopes for another new club which it will be launching soon. Seems like they continually release multiple drivers per year. Their most recent line of drivers isn't selling well and interest in golf is declining and so are their sales numbers so the solution they're going with is to release a new club soon?

I want outrageous speed with a Callaway XR Driver Rory McIlroy - (-5) John Senden - (-5) Matt Every - (-5)

Yes. I feel like this year is the best year I've had on the golf course and the funny thing is I've not practiced anywhere near as much as I used to (between work and kids). In prior years, I would go to the range three or four days per week and beat balls and also practice my short game on my lunch breaks for 40 minutes or so three or four days per week. This year, I have went to the range exactly two times (except for a few warm up balls before each round). I've also not been able to work on my short game like I have in previous years either. That tells me my swing is getting better and is more repeatable even without hitting hundreds of balls each week.

Agree with AimPoint. I almost don't even want to recommend it to my friends; it feels like that much of a secret! I've always felt that reading greens has been my downfall. Speed is usually decent but I never really made a lot of putts; just all around the hole kind of thing. Since taking AimPoint Express a month or so ago, I bet I've made more putts in the last month than I did the last four years combined. It's been that big of a change. I'm not even an expert with it, but I'm competent enough to know what I'm doing. I still have to force myself to trust it on long putts as sometimes what AimPoint gives me is vastly different than what my eyes see, but I just try to tell my brain/eyes to shut up and do what AimPoint says and it works. On anything six feet and in, I've been automatic lately and since taking AimPoint it's obvious to me now why I never made a lot of putts. Ono short putts, I've always played way too much break and on long putts I've never played enough.

Why do you feel that Valhalla wasn't a great fit for a major championship and Whistling Straights is? I've never been to Whistling. Looks fantastic on TV. Just curious as to your thoughts on why. Looks like TV ratings were up 36% from a year ago for the final round.

Yeah, you're right. It wasn't hard but it usually isn't hard for them when the tees are all the way back either. I liked having it up and add in that extra possibility of eagle to add to the drama of the day.

It's not as if the 4th hole is really that hard when they have the tees back either. It's like 370 from the back tees and the longest hitters are able to get there if they want and at worst have a little wedge into the green. Scoring average is a product of how much rain they've received. I mean, the balls were hitting the green and not moving an inch. As the commercial says, these guys are good and they will stick shots next to flags all day when they have no fear of a ball bouncing over a green. I bet I saw Charles Howell on the range from about 80 yards put 15 straight balls inside 8 feet. They are just too good when it's this wet which is why you see greens running 14 usually at majors. That's the only protection the courses have. These guys will typically make any reachable par 4 look easy, but I think there was some risk out there on the hole. The line you have to take to get the green is straight over a huge bunker and deep rough along with hazard left just off the green. If you're not able to fly it 280, you're going to be in deep rough or a deep bunker and those aren't easy shots to get up and down.

Not sure how many people commenting have actually played the course, but I have and I can tell you, it's not nearly as easy as the leaders are making it out to be. I played it from the same tees they are playing from (actually some further back) and it's not easy. Also, the fairways are not near as wide as everyone is making them out to be and the rough isn't nearly as thin either. I was there yesterday and the rough is around 3.5 - 4 inches but it's thick Kentucky bluegrass which isn't easy to hit out of. When you're talking about the low scoring (which everyone isn't going low although more low scores today) you have to keep in mind the rain. I think they've had like 1.5 inches of rain in the last two days there and yesterday when I was there, it was REALLY wet. People were losing their shoes in mud it was so bad. With all of that rain, you have the best players in the world firing at almost every flag and making a ton of birdies because they have no fear of the ball bouncing over the green. As for the gimmicky holes, I guess I can see why some may feel that way, but not sure a waterfall or an island green makes it gimmicky? On hole seven, you can either hit it to the narrow left fairway and have about 240 into the green or you can hit it to the right fairway and layup. Gives players an options and risk/reward play. 13 may be gimmicky in that it's a man made island (we all know island greens never work or are popular *ahem* Sawgrass) but I don't mind it. It's a pretty cool little hole I think. To his point about lesser known players on the leaderboard. That really means nothing to me. He's acting as if lesser known players being on the leaderboard somehow discredit the course. Rich Beem, Ben Curtis, Louis Oosthuizen, and YE Yang all were on the leaderboard and won majors. Does that also make the courses they won on "not major worthy?"

I think I read that Jack won the Long Drive championship at the PGA back in the day by hitting one 350ish? Gary Woodland who's known as one of the longest guys out there is carrying a persimmon 268. Gives you an idea of just how long Jack was back in his day.

Resurrecting an old thread I s Resurrecting an old thread I see. :) I'd say caddying there would be awesome. Just being on the course every day would be cool. Can't imagine playing it as much as you have. Would have to make you a bette golfer. Any other course would seem easy in comparison.

I was B-Fit for Bridgestone B330-S golf balls JB Holmes -14 Seung-Yul Noh -14 Ben Crane -14

This seems to work great for me when I'm hitting an iron, but I cannot for the life of me shorten my driver swing. I don't know if it's the urge to try and hit the ball as hard as humanly possible or what, but even when I feel like I'm taking a 3/4 swing or stopping at A3, I end up passed parallel. Drives me nuts.

Justin Rose: -10 Harris English: -10 Matt Every: -10

I'm usually around. Just not much time to actually interact or post anything. :)

What's your source? Andy seems to do quite a bit to help people improve, actually. He's been more than gracious with his personal time with me.

Quote: Originally Posted by tkahlm Many teachers do their own research with trackman. I have heard many top instructors talk about starting direction of slicers being 15% to the right of the target and lower, those numbers where found from the use of a trackman. I understand spin axis tilt as well I was trying to find out if anyone has experience on the spin loft being more on a draw or a fade thus lower the smash factor. Sorry, I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at by "starting direction of slicers being 15% to the right of the target and lower." Starting direction is really irrelevent for what we've been discussing. If starting direction is to the right of the target, you can still fade one 10 yards or you can draw one 10 yards with a change in path. All things being equal except the path, they would in theory go the same distance. Quote: trying to find out if anyone has experience on the spin loft being more on a draw or a fade thus lower the smash factor. Again, the only way spin loft can be different for a draw or a fade if there's other parts not equal, e.g., dynamic loft and angle of attack. Spin loft is the difference between your dynamic loft and attack angle. Let's say your attack angle is 0 and your dynamic loft on your face is 10°. The only way your spin loft will change is if your angle of attack changes or your face angle changes (maybe both). An example of that change may be your angle of attack is now -2° while your dynamic loft stays the same at 10°. You've just widened the "gap" which creates more spin. Higher spin loft increases spin and from my understanding generally decreases ball speed (which I assume would also have a lower smash factor). I just don't think the topic of spin loft has any correlation to a draw or a fade though. You can have the same spin lot on a draw or a fade as far as I know.

Really? I must be looking at it wrong then? The second diagram I posted (http://i.imgur.com/DY34Url.jpg) shows that each different position affects loft and face angle. It appears you can leave the lie the same, but not the loft or face?

Exactly. It doesn't make sense to say that one flight goes further than the other. Assuming for a second that a fade goes further (for a right handed player) with an positive angle of attack, then guys like Phil Mickelson would be at a disadvantage hitting a fade since their fade curves to the left and other players curves to the right.

I don't think you can find data from Trackman to show that one flight goes further than another. Unless of course, one or more of the variables are different. Again, you're just tilting spin-axis, so assuming swing speed, smash factor, spin, etc., are all the same, the ball turning left-to-right isn't going to go further or shorter than a ball turning right-to-left.

I can't see how a positive angle of attack with a driver will make a fade go further than a draw with the same positive angle of attack, assuming everything else is equal of course. I also don't believe a draw will go further with an iron. You can fade an iron just as easily as you can draw it and on both swings have a negative angle of attack with the handle forward. Remember, you're just tilting the spin-axis. Unless the two swings creating the curve are different and thus providing different AOA, spins, etc., then a fade should in theory go the same distance as a draw with any club. We have to say "when everything is equal" or else you'd be comparing apples to oranges aren't you? You could make an endless amount of arguments if everything isn't equal. It would be like saying a fade will go further with a swing speed of 112 vs a draw at swing speed of 90. Of course it will.

Makes sense now. I guess I was just under the impression that the tool allowed for a loft AND face change, when that's not true, obviously. So, I kept thinking in my head: "How in the world can I add loft and yet close the face at the same time?" So, for all intents and purposes, the face angle doesn't even come into play unless you don't roll the club after adjustment. So if I need a little higher initial launch, then I need to set it to A4, roll the face so it's square (usually hover my driver anyway) and I'm good. Thanks again.

Thanks. I think that make sense. So for example, on the fitting chart, if I were to go from A1 to A4, I'm closing the face 1.5 degrees with the tool. So then, if were to take the club and square it up with my hands by rolling the face open a little, that's equating to a loft change of +1.5. But this only applies when actually rolling the face one way or the other after adjustment, correct? If I have an 8.5° driver and I adjust it from A1 to A4, it's closing the face 1.5 degrees. If I then don't re-open the face and square it back up, then it's still 8.5°. Only when I roll the face a little to square it will it have the additional 1.5° of loft?