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Yeah, no doubt. Sorry too, my reference to "picking up a Sabertooth" I was meaning a Backstryke model of the Sabertooth, not the regular (although I do like the regular one too). I was really considering going to a long putter or belly putter before finding the 2-ball Backstryke. Glad I didn't now.

Did you try to 2-Ball model? I was the same way. I know indoors, it seems you make everything you look at and this was no different. I think I putted for ten minutes or so with it and made everything I looked at inside. I usually don't put much thought into it when I make everything with a putter at a golf store. This went on for a few days indoors and I liked it more and more each day. Finally took it out to the putting green and continued to make everything I looked at so I went in and talked them down on price and got it. Everything in golf can change quickly and who knows, I may not like this thing in a year or so, but I have the same thoughts as you. It's extremely easy to align on short putts and the face just seems to set square and stays stable through the strike. My old Yes! Blade putter seemed to feel as though the face twisted at impact if I didn't hit it perfectly, but not this thing. Check out Rock Bottom Golf. They currently have them for $79. Just the other day they had a 24 hour special on them and were selling every Backstryke model for $50. Might be worth a shot to email and see if you can still grab one for $50. Who knows? The other thing I noticed too was my speed seemed to be better. I don't know if it's the head/shaft design or just the mallet head in general, but I have a tendency to leave putts short (mostly from trying to guide the ball to the hole and lack of confidence I think) and that wasn't an issue at all during the two rounds I used this putter. But, could be a direct result of just being more confident at address. I felt like I knew I was going to make putts or at least get close rather than hoping I'd make them. What did you hate about it? Just everything? What model did you try? I really like the look of the regular Sabertooth so I imagine I'd like the Backstryke even more. Unfortunately I wasn't able to try one of those because the place I got mine only had the one used 2-Ball; no new ones. I'm happy with my purchase though. If I see a Sabertooth for cheap somewhere I may pick it up just to have as a backup.

Erik, can you go into more detail about this? I've always been under the impression that maintaining the pressure points under your arms would contribute to a path that's more to the right (not sure why I thought that, but whatever). How, when the left arm detaches from the chest, does that shift the path more right? I typically practice with a glove under each armpit and that always seems to help me hit some tight little draws.

I recognize a lot of the names there from the S&T; camp. Curious if those folks no longer wish to be thought of a "S&T; teachers?" If so, why the change of affiliation (if you can call it that)?

I know these putters have been out for a while and if you're like me, you haven't even been interested in trying them based on looks alone. I mean, a shaft that's connected to the back of the putter head? No thanks! I'm sorry I didn't try one sooner. I've bee struggling with putting for a couple years. My stroke is actually decent, but I've always struggled with getting my putter face aligned correctly. I would address the ball on the green and always feel as though my putter face was open or closed and try to adjust from there on the fly on each green and it just ends in me not making many putts. It's impossible to make a confident stroke this way. I recently went on vacation in Florida and a Golf Galaxy was nearby. I went and probably tried 50 different putters, none of which I was in love with. They had a lot of different Odyssey Backstryke models which I never even took off the shelf because of the whole shaft being in the back of the clubhead thing. I mean, who does that, right? Fast forward to when I get back after vacation, my local driving range had a used (but like new condition) 2-Ball Backstryke sitting there. I picked it up and tried it; I had tried everything else, so why not? To my surprise the putter set up really nice. The face set square at address with no twisting open or closed, hand position because of the unique shaft felt great and impact had a nice "ting" sound which I kind of liked (seemed better than the "thud" of the other models I tried). The putter is designed to not impair your view of the face at address. That's the whole reason for the shaft design. With other putters, the shaft typically covers a portion of the face making it more difficult to align squarely to your target. That's the theory behind it; for me it seems to be legit because I do feel as though this putter is much easier to align to my intended target. So far I've used it for two rounds and had 26 putts the first round and 28 the second. I can't tell you the last time I had anything below 30 in a round, let alone two in a row. This is hardly scientific proof of superiority of this putter and we all know how quickly things can change in golf, but at least for now, I have zero plans to change putters. Just thought I'd recommend it to anyone on the market for a new putter. Force yourself to get over the initial impression based on looks and give it a try. I think you'll like it.

Tiger Woods -4 Webb Simpson -4 Martin Laird -4

Quote: These people are in golf to make themselves a name. They’re all pointing at the Pyramids and calling it a diamond stack of rocks and saying they discovered them. The thing about Brandel is that he obviously does no research into any subject he talks about. I could be wrong, but I've never heard a single person in the Stack and Tilt camp (or any other instructor teaching a centered axis swing) say that THEY discovered it. None. I really have no idea what issue Brandel takes with this type of instruction. It's how the best players in the game swing the club today and how they swung the club 40 years ago. Sure, every player isn't exact to every single piece of the pattern, but they have a lot of pieces. Why wouldn't Tiger want to know the angles and numbers? Having a higher understanding of the numbers and the how's and why's can only make you a better golfer I would think. Tiger's ball striking has been pretty darn good this year I think, it's his putter that's letting him down. So, I'm not real sure what beef Brandel has other than he's ignorant on the topic and his only response is to attack that which he does not fully understand.

Ian Poulter -10 Carl Pettersson -10 James Driscoll -10

Tiger Woods -4 Jim Furyk -4 Luke Donald -4

Makes sense now.

Wait... maybe there is a typo (in the original article I linked too) here, but with the formula for how to calculate dynamic loft? According to Saevel25 earlier: If you take that formula using the trackman numbers supplied at the top of the blog entry, it works out to 11.3 degrees of dynamic loft. In the article, he has "Static Loft + Attack Angle" where I think he meant "Spin Loft + Attack Angle?" 11.3 - -3.4 = 14.7 Spin Loft 14.7 + -3.4 = 11.3 Dynamic Loft Correct?

Thanks. That's kind of what I thought, but I figured since that's such a highly regarded blog, it must be correct. Glad to know I'm not THAT dumb... Yeah, didn't seem right to me. Thanks for the info.

That's exactly thought I thought it was calculated but reading this I'm not sure: [quote]In the sample we are dealing with, the golfer is hitting a 6-iron which has about 32* of loft. The golfer had a -3.4* attack angle which is about the Tour average and likely had some forward shaft lean. The result? It took that 6-iron loft and turned it into a 11.3* loft at impact.[/quote] How do you take a 6 iron with 32* of loft with a -3.4 AOA and get a dynamic loft 11.3*? Like I wrote in my first post, they've got the bit about "adjusting for the impact of a bended shaft" but that doesn't help me figure out how they end up with 11.3* dynamic loft.

Can any of you experts out there explain dynamic loft to me and how it's calculated? I came across this site giving different explanations for terms: http://3jack.blogspot.com/2009/12/trackman-translations-part-iii.html I can't seem to do the math (never was good at it... ) and get the 11.3° dynamic loft that they get. I assume it has something to do with this part: " adjusted for the impact of the bended shaft (typical +2° for a driver)" How do you adjust for the impact of a bended shaft for other clubs beside driver?

Carl Pettersson - 275 Webb Simpson - 275 Tiger Woods - 275

I think he's been better in recent years, but overall, I think he's generally an ******* on the course. Off the course, they've done Inside the PGA Tour segments on him and he seems like a really nice dude.

So wait... it's $9.50 for 100 balls AND you're hitting ProV's? The range I go to (which is always listed at one of the top in the country) charges $6.50 for about 40 balls and they're mostly your typical range balls with the random beat up ProV thrown in.

Really? I don't think Zach comes off that way at all. Of course I don't know him though. Maybe he is a jerk. I agree on Gary Player. While I respect him for what he's done for the game, he's very opinionated and seems to what everyone to conform to what he does. Not surprising that his son turned out the way he did. While his son (Wayne) isn't a "pro" in the general sense that we're talking about here, I would forfeit the money I paid to get into the pro-am if one of the guys in my group was Wayne Player.

Don't score much different at all. Sometimes I even score better because when I get on the green I'm not putting additional pressure on myself to make a putt. I realize the greens are bumpy, I realize I'm going to miss a few so I just hit it and don't worry about it.

Because he's loaded? /sarcasm Seriously though, this happens with anyone who has a lot of money or comes into money via death of a family member, lottery, etc. You all of a sudden have friends and family you didn't know you had coming at you from everywhere with their hand out because, well, you can afford it now so that obligates you to hand it over.

As others have said, the only way Augusta Nation would get that ball from me is for a couple (or as many as I could get out of them) rounds of golf or a lot of cash. There's a chance I might consider it for for tournament tickets for the whole week for the rest of my life if playing the course just absolutely was not an option. I'd give it back to Louis for nothing if he wanted it anyone else, they had better have something to give in return.

My miss is a push-fade typically. The driver swing video was two push-fades and the iron swings were struck well and push-draws. I think I get my head moving away from the target slightly on the downswing and don't maintain my wedges well so when I get that little flip at the bottom is when I hit the fade. I continue to work on the flying wedge drill to help with my flipping.

Video quality isn't as good as I would like, but all I had on me at the time was my iPhone.

Tiger Woods - 276 Mahan - 279 Snedeker - 279

His video about the ball flight laws may very well be old and maybe he's changed his approach to those now. I didn't check dates or anything. Just saw it in the sidebar when searching for him and watched it since it's typically my first gauge as to whether an instructor will keep my interest. I watched his D-Plane video and it appears he does know the correct ball flight laws, but I found the video to be somewhat confusing; maybe need to watch it again. I though James and Erik's D-Plane video was much easier to understand. It seemed in Josh's video, he would say "the plane is leaning to the left" but from my view watching, it was actually leaning to the right. So, I'm not sure if the things he was stating were from his viewpoint or what? It does appear that the guys on the show don't get to spend a lot of time with Haney. He drops in and gives a lesson and then they're on their own for a time before the next lesson when Haney will have them come out to the range where he's had about 1,000 balls teed up for them to machine gun through. Weird show.