mako224

You think a wistle is more effective than a firearm?????

Thats a nice dissertation but I was only speaking in general terms. He stated he normally averages around 90. He also mentions he just broke 80 for the first time and he found some scorecards in his car with scores of 78, 88, 88, 89, and 99. A player in this relm will likely be a 13 to 15 handicap if he were posting his scores at my home course. I was not implying that those 5 scores in the GHIN system would give him a specific handicap.

Driving is not a right but thank god we live in a country where it is a right for law abiding citizens to own a firearm.

It seems you are willing to admit here that he is a socialist but not willing to admit that he is a communist. I know the difference between the two but for the sake of this discussion lets move past that. I think hes a communist, you think hes a socialist. Ok. I'm just curious if you are willing to admit that both socialism and communism are bad and that both go against everything this great nation was built on???

I guess we should ban cars then DA.

Personally I love reading news stories where a little old lady shoots and kills an intruder or attacker. More power to them.

I go down to the Tampa area every winter. We have a house just north of Tampa. You may be a bit surprised as I was the first time I went down in winter at how brown the golf courses are. Despite it being warm, remember it is still winter down there and the grass is dormant. Your high end courses do normally overseed but who knows this year. I remember going down my first time i January and my home course in NJ was actually more green than what I found anywhere around Tampa.

Offset clubs encourage you to make bad swings and let you get away with them. In order to progress as a player you really need to learn how to play with clubs that are square at address.

Thats not the point JA. This is nothing like the great depression as some would have you blieve. Remember the bump in the road when the dot com bubble burst?? This one is only slightly worse. This is not, I repeat, NOT the worst economy since the great depression. Not even close.

First off what handicap system are you using? Second, you can't just scrounge up some old scorecards off the floor of your car and use them. You need to religiously enter every score no matter how bad moving forward. Third, it takes about 20 scores before your handicap is even close to reliable. Any less than that and a single good score will skew the handicap. Based on what you have said and the scores you mention it is way way too low.........if you were to post those scores on my home course which is a par 70 with a slope of 130 and course rating of 69.6 from the Blue Ts you would have a 13 to 15 handicap index. We use the GHIN handicap system thru the Philadelphia section of the PGA.

Do you remember the Carter years?????? They were far worse than this. I would say the end of the Bush the 1st presidency was just as bad as well. Im sure economic times durring the 2nd world war and Korea were much tougher than what we have now. The economy goes up and down. this is just another bump in the road. All the government can do is hurt the economy. Get the government out of the way and this economy will take off. Look at the wealth around you. Things aren't so bad.

There is no substitute for length though. Being able to reach a par 5 in 2 is a huge advantage to have as is the ability to hit a hybrid 230 yards to the fairway on par 4s while your opponants are hitting drivers. The guy hitting the driver only 220 won't even be able to reach some par 4s in 2. Up till last year my entire strategy was bomb and gouge. This year by taking the option of throttling back on 1/3rd of the holes I used to hit driver on I have shaved almost 10 strokes off of my scoring average.

He is comparing this to the great depression. That is ludicrous. Durring the great depression poor people starved. People had to go to soup kitchens for a slice of bread and some soup. People lived in shanty touns and under rail bridges. The typing on a golf forum comment had nothing to do with weather or not this section is for politics or such. My point about posting on a golf forum is that we are all sitting behind the screens of $1,000 computers hooked up to $50 to $100 per month high speed internet connections. We are on a golf forum wasting productive time talking about another expensive luxury....golf. Just think if you lived in a country with REAL economic misery where you had to actually work hard in order to provide the bare essentials for survival. We live in one of the most if not the most affluent country in the world. Hopefully when Obama is thru his 4 years we will still be a free country. Remember his rhetoric. He is gunning for all of us country club bluebloods. He resents us and he wants to spread our wealth to people who won't work to achieve the things we have worked hard for. The guy is a closet communist. I seriously hope Obama does not make a difference. The change he wants is not change we need. Hopefully congress will bottleneck everything he tries over the next 4 years. Gridlock in Washington is a good thing.

You really don't have a clue do you????? You are typing on a golf forum and you think this is the worst since the depression. Look around you. Our "poor" people are fat. Our poor have cable television, laptop computers and cell phones. This is not a bad economy. Its just a dip in the road. Keep watching the network news though.

I am very long with the driver. My key to success though is knowing when to keep the driver in the bag. I play a hybrid or 3-wood off the T on most par 4s that are under 410 yards. With my 3-wood or 19 degree hybrid I am still longer than most of the people I play with. I have realized that I am completely comfortable anywhere from 100 to 160 to the center of the green. My strategy is to play the easiest shot off the T to get me safely in that zone and in the fairway. This year I also learned to hit a towering high cut with a driver that is easy to control that I use in certain situations. My scores have come down dramatically since I stopped hitting driver on short tight holes. For me nothing is worse than a tight lie in the fairway 40 to 80 yards out......for me that is as much trouble as being in a bunker.....at least in a bunker I can hit an aggressive shot.

If I were to look at my driving distance I would be right in the upper half of the pack on the PGA tour. If I were to look at my fairway percentage again I would be middle of the pack on the PGA tour. Greens in regulation I'm not too shabby either. I lose all my strokes on and around the green. Short game and putting kills me. I play with a guy whose long game is pisspoor compared to mine but he has a spectacular short game. If he is anywhere inside 60 yards its almost a given he will get up and down. If I had his short game I would play below par most days. I also seem to always wind up above the hole with a tretcherous downhill chip or putt. Putting really hurts me as well especially under pressure. I will be stuck as a 7 or 8 handicap until I learn to chip and putt. You can't get to scratch 3 putting 5 to 10 times a round like I do.

The Godfather Saga and Searching For Tom Curren.

You are a beginner. No is the time to take lessons and nip this in the bud before you build a bunch of bad muscle memory. If you're not gonna take lessons my suggestion for you would be to take a 7-iron or pitching wedge and hit two buckets of balls with no swing ever being more than 40% of what you call 90-100%. Concentrate on making a smooth turn, making flush contact and a nice balanced fish at the end. This will teach you tempo, balance and proper swing mechanics. Don't speed up or try any other club till you have this absolutely mastered. Then speed up to 60%. It is very important at this stage of the game that you build positive muscle memory. Do not, I repeat, Do NOT keep practicing bad full swings. The damage you do now could take years to correct.

The more you think the worse you will hit the ball. Stop thinking. Only one swing thought needed....TEMPO.

You are apparently living in fairy tale land or something. Bush never ever got anything even remotely close to favorable media coverage. The media has resented him from the first day he came on the national scene. The only exception was about a 1-week hiatus after 911. Next you're gonna tell me there wasn't unprecidented media bias in favor of Obama in the recent election. As for Katrina, surely you must be joking right????? Let me guess you're one of these people who think that Bush sent the hurricane to Louisiana and that Bush blew up the levies and that all of the local, state and fema beurocrats are without fault since of course its all Bush's fault. Hell, Bush even sent down commandos in blackhawk helecopters to chain up all of these school buses so the good old boy mayor Nagen couldn't use them to get those charming NewOrlinears out of harms way.

You are playing one of the better drivers out there already in the Titleist D2. Perhaps the D1 would have been a better choice for you but the Cobra would make no appreciable difference in distance for you.

Whatever he does you can bet the main street media will be propping him up. The biggest change you will see durring his presidency will be the media changing from one that has done everything they could to tear down our country and its president to one that fawns over its chosen president. Should be interesting to watch.

It is the middle class that drives the golf business. Its not the rich. That's why the golf barometer works so well. I would bet that 80% of golf expenditures are made by people with household incomes under $100,000.

I think you're going to see alot of courses going bankrupt in the next two years. There have already been two in my area shut down or go into forclosure recently.

Galloway National is the best track I have been on. Awesome course. Another must visit for everyone to add to their list to visit would be Atlantic City Country Club. It is one of the oldest courses in the US and was the birthplace of the term Birdie. Spectacular course and clubhouse with a bar that was rated by Golf Digest to be one of the top 19th holes.