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As aF golfer(term used loosely) that has for 50 something years tried to impact ball at the point of terra firma on which it sit; meaning I'd try to clip the ball from where it sit. The last year or so, at least before I die, I am trying to learn to hit the ball before the ground. If you change this after 50 years of the other, there's gonna be SOME CHANGES! First there was hitting the ball 4,5 or maybe8 or 10° to the slice side of things. Not necessarily a slice, but a push. Hence, came the D Plane....but another topic for another day. My question is; how do you aim at the point in which to strike? I have been aiming about an inch in front of ball for mid irons. when I do that, all is well. However, my consistency for do that is fleeting. Have you learned any tricks of the trade to maintain a constant impact?

Well, his lead leg is still bent! Does that mean his lead leg is not doing anything either? His weight has already shifted to lead leg, so what little the trail foot/leg did has dissipated. I'm not saying you "push off" but it is planted for a reason. Lift your trail foot and try to hit your full drive length.

I used Maltby MO4s, forged musclebacks to win my club championship in 2007, The competition wasn't too keen during that year.

Well, I think it's just left over axioms. I did a self study the past summer, right or wrong, it has helped ME. I am 69 years old and was losing distance. For 50 something years I played 8 iron as 152....or so. I was down to about 138, so I went to work to regain some speed. To shorten the story and get to the subject, I discovered I needed to load the trail side fully to get an AUTOMATIC trigger to start the downswing. It had become a gamble. With the trail side loaded, the trail leg outer calf muscle were in full tension as well as the muscle running up into the thigh beside the knee. The target side knee was pulled in just inside the lead foot and the outside calf muscles were stretched. Kinda like Hogan said, the body was cocked. Unlike a rifle or firearm there is no trigger sear, so the trigger in the golf swing is a dynamic. A compilation of all of the "loaded" muscles gave ME a dynamic trigger to "GO" The trail leg REACTED by unleashing the pent up pressures as well as the lead leg creating a slight weight shift to the lead leg and a bit of lateral slide(for lack of better term). To do this, the trail foot has to be firmly planted. If you have a gimpy trail foot, you may not be able to make that transition real firmly, hence not being able to "push off" with the trail foot. Not so much a push off, but a firm anchor.

Darn good(and deep dive into) discussion on movements. This past summer I was fighting this position, that position, and everything else in the golf swing. I took about a week of just swing the club as fast as I could. Learning how the body moves. Imitate the impact position and maybe a few frames past impact. NO BALL. It will free your mind of "golf positions" Then, without thinking about this or that, visualize the path and swing. Your body will do things without thinking if you know the end you seek. Guess what? I finally working into a subtle hip slide forward When you do that it seems you also load the arm against the chest and get better explosion off of the chest. After a week of that, I tried hitting a ball. If it went well, I'd hit another. If not, regain the feel. and repeat. I gain nearly 2 club lengths during that summer.

new here, again. I'd just like to say; you gotta start somewhere and I agree. Might as well make it simple. As you grow, the swing will get refined......or completely lost.😪

can't really say why, other than people keep paying it. There is one putter that is mighty tempting right now; Odyssey 2 Ball Fang. Test drove one the other day and all I gots to say is wow! But not $249 worth of wow.

I use 3 1/4" tees and tee is as high as I can. You HAVE to make a correct swing. If you release early, it drop kick city. I had trouble, at least for the first 8-10 balls on the monitor because they had a rubber tee in the matt. I was hitting thin. I brought some tees, but this wasn't the tee holding kind of rubber. I finally broke off a couple of tees and stuffed them down the rubber tee and it would grab the full tee then. Other than that, it's comfortable to me. I tee it up so the ball is almost all the way over the driver head, about a 1/4 of it below top of head. Also, tee it off the front big toe. However, with my time running out, I moved the ball back to my right arm/shoulder(lefty) and seemed to gain a few mph on the swing, so there might be something to losing speed way out there on the toe. Maybe because my club head is about even with my hands then and the release has expended itself instead of still releasing at the closer point. Didn't get to play with that, that much. Something I've got to explore a little more.

These numbers came from a pretty beat up CG2. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in the precise accuracy, but just general overall. It told me what I was thinking but didn't want to believe. My club head speed had fallen. 62 years of age and haven't really played in a couple of years. Just getting back into it. Also I was averaging just the best shots in my head, the numbers might be(probably) are off a bit.

no, didn't catch that. did show a profile and it seamed like a nice smooth arc with apex about 3/5 to 3/4 way out.

Well, I confirmed my worst fears..........I'm getting old. Swing speed averaged around 93, a few over a few under. Swing change may have slowed me down a bit. Always said I'd trade 20 yards for the fairway.......may have been wrong!:) Launch angle between 15 and 18 for most part....a few under and a few over. Spin 2100-2550 Ball speed 137 for the most part. Did hit 144 once with 97 swing speed and 267 yards. Carry distance 245-250 and a few yards of roll. Didn't really matter if I hit the 7.5 or the 9°. Guess I'm gonna have to live with it and get better in other areas.

OK, think no slack. All ways keep tension in the swing. If there is slack, you lose.

Hogan's 5 Lesson. Not the be all end all of golf instruction, but a durn good base. READ it. Don't skim over sections or you'll miss critical information. There are some sections that just don't jive, but overall, it's pretty solid.

yep, got some experimenting to do. Been raining all day here, so hopefully, I can find some facilities in the morn to get some numbers and see what's going on. Sometimes I play it a bit further forward........when I want to cut/slice the ball.....my swing starts back in by then. Appreciate the input. When I can get a swing recorded I'll see about posting it.

already play it off my right toe(lefty)

just got home and did some measuring where I hit into my net. Tee is 13' away from target and I hit the face of the target right at 3.5' high. On my calculator that equals a 15° launch angle. EDIT: Maybe I need to go to 10.5 with the SLDR to get closer to 17°

Take this for what it's worth, I'm not an instructor. Practice the backswing. Make it a swing, not a slow lifting of the arms and cocking of the wrists. Make a full backswing a couple of times and let the club head give you a gentle pull at the end. Do this a couple of times, then when the club head gives you that gentle tug, rotate the lower body, knees and hips toward target. Your plane should shift a bit, tilt down and out, ala, Hogans 5 Lessons. Repeat and feel what's going on. Not in super slow motion, just not full speed like you're going to hit a ball. When you've done this and can feel the transition and timing, finish a swing by rotating shoulders and upper body, medium speed until the hands are about all the way down to lowest spot. Feel like the release is way too late. Hit the ball at the last second with the release. If you do this fast, the club head inertia will try to keep the circle/path correct and the release will be started almost automatically. Not really anyway to try to swing, just try to get the feel of not letting the hands take over the swing. Might also think about while at top of back swing, trying to poke the butt end of the club into a big ole bag in front of you.

low or thin is usually my miss, but I discount those not expecting as much. Thanks. Finding a launch monitor hasn't been easy. Be browsing the net and haven't found any real answers. Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy, PGA superstore??????????????

saevel, no don't know my numbers. Going to see if I can get some this weekend. I already have a pretty high launch angle. My drives take off and gets high pretty quick then levels off and drops. I really wasn't expecting too much height difference at 8°, just some spin change. I have a 7.5° that I hit pretty high already. Way higher than anyone else I play with.

Does not compute to me either, hence the thread. I hit the ball solid with positive AOA. The ones off the sweet spot a bit, I discount and am not talking about. But the ones that feel crushed don't get the distance they MIGHT ought to. Maybe my swing speed has fallen off...... Spin maybe be too high, but I can't see how it could be excessive. I'm using a SLDR, built for low spin, a mid-high flex shaft and a positive AoA, do not hit down with the driver. But like I said, I need a session on a launch monitor to know for sure. I'm gonna take my 7.5 and the SLDR with 3 different shafts up to Dallas this weekend and see if I can find some numbers.

I am perplexed. With my driver, I most usually make pretty fair contact. I get a pretty high upward angle of attack. My last swing speed check was a couple of years ago; 105. May have slowed a bit. People ooh and aah when I hit my driver...... only on launch. After all is said and done, some gorilla with a 3/4 swing will out drive me. I have hit 300 yard drives before with my 7.5° Dot Com This. Not norm. I bought a SLDR in 9.5 and hit it fairly solid. Only get about 250. Think I'll crank it down to 8° and see what happens. Question: With say a 4 or 5° upward angle of attack with a 7.5° driver, will it decrease spin more than a 9.5° driver with same AOA. A fellow golfer, a bit better than I am, stated I could use a 4° driver, a bit sarcastic I think and he may play golf better than he knows equipment. But he said I hit it harder and more solid and get less out of it than anyone he's seen. My ball goes high, higher than anyone around, even with the ;7.5°. I have a bit of secondary axis tilt. I'm thinking I may be running out of spin and the ball is just falling out of the sky. Possible? I get absolutely no run out of my drives. I need some launch monitor time, but am 70 miles away and I know.................................post a swing. Any one with any ideas?

Need to clarify. After the 2007 year, I promptly quit playing golf. Didn't play another round for at least 5 years. Starting a couple of years back, I have participated in a couple of company scrambles.

Please excuse my interjection here, you can take it for what it's worth; It is very hard to take a change from the range to the course in just a few outings. Try to in grain what you want at the range, but go play golf. Repeat many times. The change will finally settle in, until you really try to rip one. Then work on it some more.

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