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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

Ok, I'm going to apologize in advance...I spent 20 mins typing this post up and then hit backspace only to go back a page and lose it alllll...so here it is quick!!

 

I started focusing on golf hardcore about a month ago. In the past year Id say that i have played a total of 10 rounds of 18 and about 20+ trips to range(100 balls @ min per trip)...I really enjoy the sport and want to really practice hard and accelerate my skill rate as quickly as my body and cashflow let me.

 

I have been using a set of OLD hand me down Dunlops(driver/irons/woods) that are extremely wore.. Im finally to a point where i make pretty solid contact with the ball everytime and for the most part goes "Toward" the area i aimed for. So I figure logically the next thing for me to do to get better is to purchase my very own FIRST set of clubs.

 

Ok to start off i live in a small town w/ 1 "pro shop"... the guy there is really cool and nice ive known him for a couple years...he told me anything i wanted i could put on layaway and he wouldnt charge me extra or give me a time frame.. after talking with him he got the "Adams Tight Lies" series into my head

 

Im looking to spend 200-500

Adams Tight Lies 11pc (Local = 340 / Dicks = 399) --  Adams Tight Lies PLUS 12pc (Local = 440 / Dicks = 499)

[ 460 cc Driver - 3/5 Wood - 5H - 6-9 - PW/SW - Putter] PLUS CONTAINS A 4H FOR 100 MORE

Ive looked at new sets from 09-11 and they are same amount of clubs just 100-300 bucks cheaper!!!

 

Well After going to dicks yesterday for 3 hours and explaining exp and swinging...PGA dude shows me a set of the               "Walter Hagen XLR"  $199 marked down from $400 He said that with my skill level the name ADAMS wont help too much

 

[460cc Driver - 3 Wood - 3/4H - 5/6/7/8/9 - PW/SW - Alignment Putter]

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12584067

 

I Swung the 6 Iron from both the Walter Hagen and Plus set.. They BOTH look exactly the same almost to a T for each club....design...cavities...weight...head size (Hagen is SMIDGE bigger...im thinking good?)....I honestly thought the Hagen set felt better to Swing...seemed more natural...I did not like the grips from the Tight Lies Plus Set either...

 

SOOOO!!!! What do I do???

- 2012 Tight Lies Plus?? 440/500

- 2012 Tight Lies?? 340-400

- 09-11 New Tight Lies?? 200-400

- Walter Hagen XLR?? 200 (Gives me money left over for better driver/putter/etc

- ORR?!?! Buy a used set of name brand clubs from ebay/online?? 200-500?

 

The Less I Spend The Better....honestly shouldn't be spending any on new clubs but heyyyy i love golf...

 

Any input would be awesome!!

 


 

post #2 of 26

I'm a big fan of buying used irons. There isn't a huge difference between models from 5 years ago and today's sets, and they last a long time so unless they've been really badly treated you won't miss out on performance by getting a used set.

 

You can also normally sell them for pretty close to what you bought them for in a year's time if you decide to change. A new set (or non-name box set) will drop a lot of it's value pretty much straight away.

 

Have a look at Callaway preowned (http://www.callawaygolfpreowned.com/), if you can stretch your budget to say a set of X-20s in good condition then they're going to last you a long time. Or ebay for a cheaper option, just make sure you do your research.

 

I bought a set of used Mizuno MX-17s to start my set and filled it out with other used clubs. After a year I was ready to upgrade but by that point I knew what I wanted for my clubs and thus was willing to spend a bit more. And I could do that without feeling like I'd wasted money to begin with because I hadn't spent too much.

post #3 of 26

I'd go with a Super Game Improvement set without a driver.  Drive with your 3W and add a Driver later.  Set up would be 3W, 5W, 3H, 4H, 5-PW, GW (48-52 depending on what your PW loft is), SW (54-56), LW (58-60), putter.  Get an older model for the set you like e.g if Adams the see if you can find a set of A3 / A3OS / A4R / A4R OS.  Same with any other brand.  You can get pretty good cheap wedge sets (2-3 pieces) on the net (e.g. Rock Bottom Golf) for less than $50?  

 

Good luck and happy hunting.  That (new equipment) is part of the fun in this game too... 

post #4 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah I'm trying to do as much research and homework as I possibly can... what about the lower x- series?? Like x-17?? Its a little more in my budget...like I said I really can't afford to spend much...trying to save up for a car too
post #5 of 26
Don't listen to the guy at Dicks if told you there is no difference between Adams and Walter Hagen clubs. Adams is clearly better. My brother was in the same boat as you and picked up the Hagen set, which I tried to deter him from doing. A year later I talked him into swinging our other brother's Adams A7 irons to see the difference. Within a week he ordered a new set of the Adams A7 irons/hybrids (which were on sale for 280). Bought a used Ping driver and a solid Odyssey putter, and a set of Adams Watson wedges... Everything a beginner would possibly need. He paid about 500 for everything.

Listen to the guy at the local pro shop and go with Adams over Hagen. The other guys made a good point about buying good used gear.

My suggestion, get fitted and know what you're buying if you get anything used. If you go new, see the guy you like at your local pro shop and he'll probably fit you for free when you put in your order for clubs.
post #6 of 26
Don't listen to the guy at Dicks if told you there is no difference between Adams and Walter Hagen clubs. Adams is clearly better. My brother was in the same boat as you and picked up the Hagen set, which I tried to deter him from doing. A year later I talked him into swinging our other brother's Adams A7 irons to see the difference. Within a week he ordered a new set of the Adams A7 irons/hybrids (which were on sale for 280). Bought a used Ping driver and a solid Odyssey putter, and a set of Adams Watson wedges... Everything a beginner would possibly need. He paid about 500 for everything.

Listen to the guy at the local pro shop and go with Adams over Hagen. The other guys made a good point about buying good used gear.

My suggestion, get fitted and know what you're buying if you get anything used. If you go new, see the guy you like at your local pro shop and he'll probably fit you for free when you put in your order for clubs.
post #7 of 26

Id buy the Hagens or a set of Wilsons from Target.  Before you go out and spend $1000+ on a quality set of namebrand clubs, youd be wise to try golf for a few years to make sure its something that you are going to stick with long-term.  You could spend $200-$300 on a really nice set that would have everything you would need and would be a super friendly, easy to hit set that would give you the best chance to have success and enjoy golf.

Save the money you would have spend buying a name brand set of clubs and instead invest it in lessons.  The best clubs in the world mean nothing if you dont know how to set up to the ball and swing them properly.

post #8 of 26

Personally I wouldn't listen to anything offered from a Dick's employee, whether it's about golf, tennis, or fishing. They are mainly kids that don't have much knowledge about anything besides facebook and tweeting. But then maybe it's just my local Dick's store.. 

 

I'm with the other poster on used clubs. Much better IMO to get decent used clubs rather than cheap POS new clubs.

post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TitleistWI View Post

Id buy the Hagens or a set of Wilsons from Target.  Before you go out and spend $1000+ on a quality set of namebrand clubs, youd be wise to try golf for a few years to make sure its something that you are going to stick with long-term.  You could spend $200-$300 on a really nice set that would have everything you would need and would be a super friendly, easy to hit set that would give you the best chance to have success and enjoy golf.
Save the money you would have spend buying a name brand set of clubs and instead invest it in lessons.  The best clubs in the world mean nothing if you dont know how to set up to the ball and swing them properly.

Yeah that sounds pretty good...I've been doing a lot of browsing looking to build it peice by peice but I honestly haven't had much luck within my budget...like I said I'm pretty new to golf but LOVE it....I really can't stress enough about my budget being super low....right now I'm only getting about 30 hours a week at my job and have bills...also trying to save for a car as well....

I have done a lot of looking on ebay and the callawaypreowned site...everytime I think I find something I like something else catches my eye

Would someone care to post some links of what they might go with in my situation??
I'm @ work and on my phone and product browsing gets difficult
If I can stay between 200 - 300 that would be GREAT!! (2012 TIGHT LIES @ LOCAL = 350) driver - 3/5w - 4I - 5/6/7/8/9 - pw - tom watson sw- putter
I get payed tonight...so I really wanna figure this out ASAP!! I can either buy the walter hagens tonight or put a GOOD chunk on the adams or whatever I go with
post #10 of 26

Check out some of my other posts... there was one about a left handed guy looking for clubs.  I gave a link to ebay for a used set that would make a really solid set for a beginner.  I think they were Adams irons with 3 Callaway woods.  The link I gave him was for a right hander (I was just trying to make the point that one could find a great beginners set used for a great price on ebay).

post #11 of 26

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adams-Idea-a7-Iron-set-Golf-Club-/330707755312?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash=item4cffb7e130

 

Check this used set out.  If you can pick these up for under $200, then go buy a cheap used bag, cheap used putter and cheap used 3 wood (don't worry about a driver for a while).  Then down the road as you have more money, look into replacing the cheaper items.  This Adams a7 set should last you and fit your needs for a long time.

 

Good luck

 

post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by msumner View Post


Yeah that sounds pretty good...I've been doing a lot of browsing looking to build it peice by peice but I honestly haven't had much luck within my budget...like I said I'm pretty new to golf but LOVE it....I really can't stress enough about my budget being super low....right now I'm only getting about 30 hours a week at my job and have bills...also trying to save for a car as well....
I have done a lot of looking on ebay and the callawaypreowned site...everytime I think I find something I like something else catches my eye
Would someone care to post some links of what they might go with in my situation??
I'm @ work and on my phone and product browsing gets difficult
If I can stay between 200 - 300 that would be GREAT!! (2012 TIGHT LIES @ LOCAL = 350) driver - 3/5w - 4I - 5/6/7/8/9 - pw - tom watson sw- putter
I get payed tonight...so I really wanna figure this out ASAP!! I can either buy the walter hagens tonight or put a GOOD chunk on the adams or whatever I go with

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12584067&ab=TopNav_Golf_MensGolfClubs_CompleteSets&cp=4413989.4414118

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12544637&ab=TopNav_Golf_MensGolfClubs_CompleteSets&cp=4413989.4414118

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3955106&ab=TopNav_Golf_MensGolfClubs_CompleteSets&cp=4413989.4414118
 

 

post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 
Well after another trip to the local shop...ima just get a set of the Walter Hagen MS2 for 115 after tax...its driver..3wood..3/4/5 hybrid..6-9 iron...pw/sw/putter...bag with 5 headcovers and rain cover

Throwin in a pair of last years green joys for 35 bucks

This way I'm only spending 150 and won't feel guilty upgrading clubs within the next few months...

Sound good to anyone? Like I said I'm still learning the game...its just the set of dunlops I have are OLD OLD I'm thinkin atleast 5-10 years

The proshop does havethese used irons....x-20 for 200....adams rps 200....and burners for 200...all 8 peice sets
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by msumner View Post

Well after another trip to the local shop...ima just get a set of the Walter Hagen MS2 for 115 after tax...its driver..3wood..3/4/5 hybrid..6-9 iron...pw/sw/putter...bag with 5 headcovers and rain cover
Throwin in a pair of last years green joys for 35 bucks
This way I'm only spending 150 and won't feel guilty upgrading clubs within the next few months...
Sound good to anyone? Like I said I'm still learning the game...its just the set of dunlops I have are OLD OLD I'm thinkin atleast 5-10 years
The proshop does havethese used irons....x-20 for 200....adams rps 200....and burners for 200...all 8 peice sets


Sounds like a good plan to me.  Id wait a year or 2 before upgrading though.

 

post #15 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by msumner View Post

Well after another trip to the local shop...ima just get a set of the Walter Hagen MS2 for 115 after tax...its driver..3wood..3/4/5 hybrid..6-9 iron...pw/sw/putter...bag with 5 headcovers and rain cover
Throwin in a pair of last years green joys for 35 bucks
This way I'm only spending 150 and won't feel guilty upgrading clubs within the next few months...
Sound good to anyone? Like I said I'm still learning the game...its just the set of dunlops I have are OLD OLD I'm thinkin atleast 5-10 years
The proshop does havethese used irons....x-20 for 200....adams rps 200....and burners for 200...all 8 peice sets


I know I said I was all for used brand name clubs, but I think at that price it's a good way to go. You'll have a full set and it will be enough to get you to the point where you know what you want from your next set. Plus you can just upgrade bits and pieces at a time as you go which keeps it cost effective and lets you just spent what you can afford.

 

As much as we all love buying new golf clubs, and there is definitely a difference between brands/models/etc the difference isn't anywhere nearly as great as most people make out on these (and other) forums.

 

post #16 of 26

I'm just 'Joe' the regular golfer. Have no education in the golf equipment arena and have only returned to the game after 18.5 years of not golfing. After that long I can honestly say that after 4 or so months of trying to get back into the game, I can nearly hit an honest bogie round of golf. My goal? To break bogie golf and nothing more.

I have to tell you that if you have a golf swing, which is the first thing you need to perfect (because a golf club will not perfect your swing nor will it allow you to perfect your swing) then you should be able to go out and hit any good manufacturer's club as long as it is the correct length for you.

I can guarantee you that any club pro or touring pro or any college golf student can take any club off the shelf, and I mean any set made as long as it's the correct length for his/her height, and play a really good game of golf. Why? Because they have mastered, or nearly, their swing.

You have to trust the club. To do this you have to have a swing you trust first. Trusting a club is one of the hardest things a golfer has to do. Golfers try to push a club or hold back on it, or try to make it do something they are not capable of. Just perfect your swing and after that has happened, figure out your comfortable distances for each club and stick with it. If you need 150, use and trust the club you know you can hit 150. If it's 169, don't try to hit the 150 club 169. Use the club that will get you 169. If there is not a club in your bag that will do it, get as close to it as you can. It's a game for Petes sake! Enjoy it. You will get more and more distance from each club the more you play until you realize you have hit your comfortable plateau and if you are smart enough to realize when that happens, your game will then be a delight to play. We'll never be pros. We are weekend golfers. Accept it.

The top 100 touring pros average round of tournament play for a year is 69.7.There is only 3 strokes difference between the number 1 player on the tour and the 100th player on the tour when it comes to their yearly tournament average.

Now these are pro's!!!!! They do it every day of their lives. We go out what, 35 to 45 times a year? If you can shoot bogie golf, by PGA rules, you have done a wonderful thing for a weekend player. If you do even better, my hat is off to you. Just play by the rules, count all the strokes, put everything out.

I'm not saying new clubs or technology won't enter into your life sooner or later, but, if you never develop a perfect swing (your perfect swing, not someone else's perfect swing) the equipment won't help you and will in the end disappoint you because you thought it was the answer to your needs.

My best to you all and I hope to hear how it's going later on.

 

Stephen

post #17 of 26

Funny that I came across this thread through a google search the day after I joined.  After talking to my co-workers who golf, I picked up a starter set from Wilson for myself for Christmas tonight.  My old heinous 70s era clubs will go to my brother, hopefully he'll play some rounds with me this year.  Hope the new Wilsons are better.  

post #18 of 26

It would have been nice had OP followed up after some play to indicate what he thought of his purchase and if he is looking at upgrades.  Oh, well.

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