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    • IDK, a full turn. That is what it's feeling like. When I shallow the club, it ends where It ends. Should I crank the torso more around?  I'll check a face-on to make sure, but it's not like I am trying to make partial backswings.  The day has finally come, when I am getting comments on not making a long enough backswing. 🤣 too much of what?  Here is my typically routine.... 1) I usually start out just doing position work. The backswing stuff we work on. Turn to A2.5-ish, shallow to A4, pause, arms down to A6. Then, slight pump drill and hit the ball.  2) I do some pause at A4 and arms down and try to hit ball from A4 instead of A6.  3) I do some full swing stuff, trying to blend it all together. Checking video to see if I am actually keeping the club shallow or not. If not, then I go back to trying to train the downswing with the stuff we worked on. I try to blend it all together again, and check video.  What am I missing here? I do the stuff we worked on. I'll keep it at, it's all I can do. Just hope it changes.  Sorry for trying to find a feel that keeps the club shallow.. 
    • Ha ha.... I'm not sure.  I've actually never watched a LIV event. ... but maybe? 👍👍
    • I'd look at Days 2 and 22 here: https://golfevolution.com/30-day-plan And watch this video:
    • Do they run out on the course and kick sand from the bunkers on the green and yell at rules officials?
    • No worries, I understand. Thanks for chiming in and asking. Overall I am just looking to improve though. I am not sold or set on any particular way. I have a lot to learn as I am still very new to golf.
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