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Hi guys,

I just got my new hibore xls tour, 9.5 degrees, fujikura gold stiff shaft, 60 grams.

I used to hit a wilson firestick, 10.5 degrees, proforce 70 shaft with a regular flex.

Ok, so the hibore xls sounds like a gun, and the ball absolutely launches off the face. I hit about 50 balls with it and not too many of them were straight. Im a right handed shot and the ball flies from left to right quite a bit. When I slowed down the swing speed it straightened up a bit. Does anybody else here have any recommendations on how to straighten this club up. I know I need some more practice with it but a couple tips wouldn't hurt.

Cleveland Hibore xls tour w/ fujikura gold, stiff
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3-9 silverback 845cm
48, 54, 60 (silver scot) DetourBalls WarbirdBag Warbird Hot I want a 1 and 2 hybrid.....any recommendations?


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would have to see the swing. my dad had problems when i gave him his hibore xl for father's day. i just don't like it b/c the face sets up a little closed even though it says neutral....more-so with the xls than the xl. are you happy with the launch angle at which the ball comes off of the face?? you might have to play with where the ball is in your stance....these moi drivers take some getting used to...like a few days.
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would have to see the swing. my dad had problems when i gave him his hibore xl for father's day.

That's strange, since every HiBore XLS that I have seen sets up square. Where as the HiBore XL does infact set up shut.

To the OP, your driver is the Tour driver which means that the face sets up a little open, as the club is made for better players who can work the ball. So this wouldn't help with you fade/slice. But my suggestion is when you get to the top of your backswing, feel the hands and lower body start quicker then the upper body. Although it is hard to help without seeing your swing, most people with a fade/slice are doing so because their shoulders out race the hands and lower boy. So thats my $.02 and I hope it helps.

Here's what I play:

Titleist 907 D2 10.5* UST ProForce V2 76-S | Titleist 906F4 18.5* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist 585H 21* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist ZB 4-PW TTDG S300 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 54.10 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.08 | Scotty Cameron Red X5 33" |


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I've got the XLS and usually fight a case of the hooks with it. I was fitted for it at a very popular driving range here in Lexington with some of the best pros in the state. I actually hit the ball good with it while I was being fitted, but it's sense went downhill and I'm looking for a replacement. I realize that a severely closed clubface is causing my problems, but I don't hit any other club in my bag the way that I do this one, so go figure. The more I swing it, the less I'm a fan of it although I will agree, when I do hit one straight, it's hotter than any face I've tried lately.

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Well i only hit about 30 balls with it, then again, i started with my pitching wedge and 7 iron and I wasn't hitting those well either, maybe it was one of those days.

I'm going to give it another try. I found when I slowed my swing speed that the ball flew straighter, just not as far, 250ish, lol.

I'm sure it'll take some getting used to, with the stiff shaft and all. Just the ball flight when it connected is enough to make me go back and hit it again. I loved the launch angle and the ball flew just as well, if not more to my liking than with the 10.5 loft.

Cleveland Hibore xls tour w/ fujikura gold, stiff
flex
Northwestern - 5 wood
3-9 silverback 845cm
48, 54, 60 (silver scot) DetourBalls WarbirdBag Warbird Hot I want a 1 and 2 hybrid.....any recommendations?


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