is this a good tip?

[Paz]

is he right do pros or anyone in general who hits a far distance (say like 6i 200 yards) do this?

I know I hold the club too tight based off the handful of blisters i have on my fingers but I feel like this cannot be right. Why would you want to start the take away by moving the club shaft and your hands backward but not the club face so the shaft is leaning away from the target?

[injury]

I've heard of it before on some youtube clips from other guys as related to a fix other than grip pressure, but it makes sense probably dependant of tempo (too slow and it may negate it?) and goes along with one of my issues. In my case I was leading back with the clubhead breaking that connection right away so searches were related to that but some returned the same advice.

One of the deeper explanations to the origin of that move was if you go back to hickory shaft days they supposedly used to really lag that clubhead on the takeaway to get some whip started in those thick shafts. Advancement to steel meant you didn't need to do the old pronounced lag but the thought of it just slightly (kind of like the guy in your video stated it's very minimal) in my case helped maintain that connection between upper body and club in the takeaway my kill that ball instinct was causing. Now if I could keep from losing it in the transition down :(

[James_Black]

I do that, it creates more lag and then a bit more distance.

The pro's that hit the ball 200 yards with 6i do a lot more than just that though

[Zeph]

I find this an interesting topic, hope someone can tell if it really is something you should do. I've done some work on the flying wedge, but never been able to get it to work.



Doing like he does in the video works well, but when I'm hitting a ball, I got more grip pressure, and never get the lag needed. I start throwing the club from the top of the backswing. I've got other issues I work on, but now that this thread is up, I would like to discuss it. You can see Nick Clearwater on the video having a loose grip, so the hands get ahead of the club on the take-away. I can do it fine when doing the same, whipping the club, but normally the club head follow the hands on the take-away and gets thrown out right from the top of the backswing.

When doing what the guy in the first post video suggested, it feels like I got pressure on the left hand index finger on the backswing and right hand index finger on the downswing.

[RIduffer]

Zeph, one thing I hear alot is that the pivot is crucial to maintaining this lag on a full swing. If you're just focusing on hands/wrists, I think the tendency is to over-accelerate and throw it away.

Even though Nick Clearwater keeps weight forward on the backswing, he shifts more weight forward on the downswing and drives the club through with his pivot (IMO).

I think lagging the club on the takeaway is used to help get the pivot involved.

[Nick Clearwater]

Hi guys. The video is meant to isolate the wrist and forearm motion throughout the downswing. To maintain the flying wedges throughout the strike and into the follow through the golfer has to turn and extend the spine, hips, and knees. It is often more vaguely described as the pivot.

As far as grip pressure is concerned...I would prescribe playing with a grip pressure of 9 out of 10 to keep the wrist angles more constant (although I feel grip pressure should be priority #207 for most golfers.) That said, if a golfer needed to learn the wrist cock pieces it would be much more beneficial to grip the club lightly to allow for more dexterity in the wrist joints. Always gripping the club lightly is just another "sacred cow" of the golf instruction world.

[Paz]

This thread is more about the takeaway than the flying wedge. My post was at least. Notice in both videos posted the hands initiate the take away and the club face is still on the ground. This it the TIP that the guy in the original video is talking about. Every time I try this I have the ugliest swing path due to no control over the club. Maybe I'm gripping too light now? hahaha I know this takeaway lag makes a difference I just can't seem to add it into my game.

[Hollister]

I know I hold the club too tight based off the handful of blisters i have on my fingers but I feel like this cannot be right.

Yep friction causes blisters. Either the grip moves (hitting the ground etc.) or the fingers rub each other. You've gotta change that!

Why would you want to start the take away by moving the club shaft and your hands backward but not the club face so the shaft is leaning away from the target?

Hm, no. Think the Pro got fooled by "

deep hands " combined with the right wrist hinge at P3 (arms parallel to the ground - back swing).

[Paz]

Today while working on my take away I discovered that my early wrist hinge was causing my hands to be too shallow. I asked a question about my takeaway in another thread and no one though it was a big deal. but by wrist hinging before p3 your hands remain too shallow and that really takes a lot of lag out of the back swing.

[kfowler]

All I know is that I don't trust any guys who wears a woman's hair band.