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Looking for a little help. I'm really trying to improve my game this year. Distance isn't really a problem for me but consistency is what I am really struggling with.

I have a few videos from playing today and am looking for some feedback. I can already tell that I have something going on to start my downswing, and I think quieting my body down a little could help. I am self taught for the most part.

Thanks for any feedback.


Video playback was choppy for me, so difficult to pause and analyze

The main things I see are the over the top move to start the forward swing and the lack of extension of your spine and legs into impact.  You have nice connection of your right elbow to your torso going into impact.

Read the "deep hands thread".  Just google search "deep hands thread thesandtrap.com"

The deeper you get your hands and the more you initiate the forward swing with your lower body, the better your forward swing plane will be.

I have also found it helpful to pause a bit at the top with my arms.  Feel pushing your right hand into the grip at the top of the backswing.  Pause with the arms and sustain the feeling of tension/stretch while firing the legs/hips to initiate the forward swing.

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Thanks for taking a look. I will do some reading in that thread.

I just uploaded a higher quality video and added some slow motion for easier viewing.

Thanks again!


Thanks, can see more with the improved and slowed down videos.

Yep, read the deep hands thread--you bring the club head and shaft in behind your hands too early.

See previous post on the OTT and extending more into impact.

You flip the club just at impact and immediately after---see video below for drill

I like how you keep your hips forward throughout the swing.  Work on getting them even more forward going into impact.

Video drill on forward hips, maintaining "flying wedge", stopping finish early--  Erik's drill

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Thanks again for the replies. It is very helpful and gives me something to work on.

Iacas - Would you recommend that I just go to a neutral grip and go from there? Also, just so I am clear. At P2, the shaft should be parallel to the target line, and the club face should be perpendicular to the arc of the swing. Does that sound about right?


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  runyans said:
Originally Posted by runyans

Iacas - Would you recommend that I just go to a neutral grip and go from there? Also, just so I am clear. At P2, the shaft should be parallel to the target line, and the club face should be perpendicular to the arc of the swing. Does that sound about right?


Neutral to slightly strong to the first question. If you can stick to it, just change your grip slowly so you can still keep playing reasonably well. In fact, adjust your grip AS you gain the depth with the hands on the downswing. The last thing you want is a weak grip with the over the top move (or a strong grip and good move from the inside).

P2, shaft parallel to the feet and the ground, and the hands and clubhead staying on the plane and about to go into your belt buckle (DL view).

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