Mizuno T-Zoid Pro II - Are they too hard a club for a beginner?

[Demers18]

I have an old set of Mizuno T-Zoid Pro II that I'm looking at potentially giving to my father in law so he can upgrade his current, very old school, clubs. He doesn't have a proper swing, yet, but plans on eating a membership this year to improve and was wondering if these would be too much of a club for him. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks in advance FYI I upgraded to some Mizuno MP-32's and I love them, when I'm playing well lol

[14ledo81]

I have an old set of Mizuno T-Zoid Pro II that I'm looking at potentially giving to my father in law so he can upgrade his current, very old school, clubs. He doesn't have a proper swing, yet, but plans on eating a membership this year to improve and was wondering if these would be too much of a club for him. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks in advance FYI I upgraded to some Mizuno MP-32's and I love them, when I'm playing well lol

Eating a membership???

[Demers18]

Eating a membership???

Yes! You'd be surprised how hungry this man is lol Must have been the spell check. I meant "getting" a membership.

[14ledo81]

Yes! You'd be surprised how hungry this man is lol Must have been the spell check. I meant "getting" a membership.

Lol..sorry I don't have any advice on the question. There are some members who are equipment/club gurus though, I think you will get a decent answer.

[14ledo81]

Yes! You'd be surprised how hungry this man is lol Must have been the spell check. I meant "getting" a membership.

Lol..sorry I don't have any advice on the question. There are some members who are equipment/club gurus though, I think you will get a decent answer.

[carrx]

Originally Posted by Demers18

I have an old set of Mizuno T-Zoid Pro II that I'm looking at potentially giving to my father in law so he can upgrade his current, very old school, clubs.

He doesn't have a proper swing, yet, but plans on eating a membership this year to improve and was wondering if these would be too much of a club for him.

Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks in advance

FYI I upgraded to some Mizuno MP-32's and I love them, when I'm playing well lol

The T-Zoid pro II is a great club, but it may be tough for him to hit consistently.  I talked my brother into buying a set years ago when they were the new thing, but I ended up hitting them far more often than did he.

[RichardR]

they aren't as forgiving as new technology, but a free upgrade is always good.  If he is going to go the cheap route and get free clubs from you, there is no other option.  He will be a horrible golfer for a while until he learns to hit those clubs. It's not easy because they will not be as forgiving.  On the same note, when he plays with these clubs it will be hard at first but then he will become very good.  He gets direct feedback from these clubs and will motivate him to play better.

[k-troop]

I played t-zoid pro-II for several years. They were the best clubs I'd ever owned to that point, but I wouldn't play them today as I'm sure I would lose consistency over my AP2s. I hit some of the purest shots of my life with them, including a particularly ripped 4-iron out of fluffy grass that was supposed to be a layup, but landed on the middle of the green from 260 yards out.

[Demers18]

Thanks for the insight guys. I figure ill let him give them a try and see how it goes. If they don't work for him the he can simply buy a new set that's more forgiving. He was planning on buying a set around $800. With that budget, which clubs do you think he should buy?

[GaijinGolfer]

Theyre not too bad.  They arent the biggest head in the world but there is a cavity there and if you hit the ball solidly they will work for you.

[Demers18]

That's [quote name="GaijinGolfer" url="/t/65934/mizuno-t-zoid-pro-ii-are-they-too-hard-a-club-for-a-beginner#post_827250"]Theyre not too bad.  They arent the biggest head in the world but there is a cavity there and if you hit the ball solidly they will work for you. [/quote] That's the problem. He doesn't really have a solid swing, a little awkward, but he is planning on getting some lessons. I just don't want to make it too hard on him as he was planning on getting a new set of forgiving irons.

[0ldblu3]

Take this for what it's worth, but you can get a set of Mizuno mx - 11's for $110 to $140 which would be much more appropriate for this stage of his game. Then take the remaining money from the budget and get lessons. Lessons and not clubs will be what makes the game enjoyable because even if he isn't making a good swing every time, he will know what it is supposed to be and feel like.

[Demers18]

Take this for what it's worth, but you can get a set of Mizuno mx - 11's for $110 to $140 which would be much more appropriate for this stage of his game. Then take the remaining money from the budget and get lessons. Lessons and not clubs will be what makes the game enjoyable because even if he isn't making a good swing every time, he will know what it is supposed to be and feel like.

That's kind of what I was going for by giving him the clubs. He wants to try them out so ill let him, but I'll also make sure that if he's not hitting them well to guide him to some more forgiving clubs. Aside from Mizuno MX-11's, do you recommend any other good starting clubs that have enough forgiveness?

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by Demers18

That's

That's the problem. He doesn't really have a solid swing, a little awkward, but he is planning on getting some lessons.

I just don't want to make it too hard on him as he was planning on getting a new set of forgiving irons.

Well, that might be a concern then.  I used to have a set of T-Zoid Pros and they were what I would call a midsize head.  They were certainly smaller than the MX-1000s that I have now but werent as small as the MP-32s that I used to have.

Honestly, Id probably pass on the Pro IIs and try to find maybe a set of MX-15s or 19s or even an older set of cast Mizunos with a big cavity.

[MattG10]

I just started playing last year 18 months after having spinal fusion surgery to fuse my L5/S1.  Started with a set of Adams Idea A07 irons with hybrid 3/4 with graphite regular flex shafts.  I spent all last year working on my swing because I couldn't hit the ball straight or draw.  I was push slicing everything.  This year I had another lesson after a year of doing my own work, made 2 adjustments (grip and releasing hips earlier) and I am striping the ball.  I swing about 97 MPH with a driver and about 85 MPH with my irons just for some background.  I was hitting my adams 5 iron (full cavity back) about 210 yards dead straight or with a fade.

I was tired of the fade and was playing enough (3 rds a week) and my swing was solid enough to try my dad's 17 year old "Mizuno T-Zoid Pro I" because I wanted more feel with my shots and thought that the add weight of the club would help hit down on the ball.  Whether that was the case or not, I have played 5 rounds in the last couple weeks with them and am now hitting my 5 iron 220-230 yards with a slight draw.  I have no idea if everything just clicked with these clubs but my good shots are now way better and with more control and I am hitting the clubs farther than newer technology.  I went to the PGA superstore in denver yesterday to check my lie angle for the Mizunos, the fitter had me hit new ping's that were similar to my Mizuno's just this years model and I was still hitting the Mizuno's just as far and I still felt like I had more control.  The guy literally told me to stick with the Mizuno's rather than try to sell me new ones.

Eventhough I still occasionally mishit (mostly hitting off toe) and lose distance but I don't slice anymore and my mishits are going straight.

It will probably be a while before I switch to different clubs because I just hit these so well, but like the previous posters indicated work on your swing first and make sure you are comfortable then move to these clubs because they are still hard to hit if your swing is not in tune.  My suggestion as someone who just switched, I would use the cavity back clubs that are more forgiving for a round and then play a round with the Mizuno's, trust me you will know where your swing is at after that round.  Your hands will hurt if you mishit these irons.  But when you hit it right, it is like hot knife through butter.