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I've been Playing Golf for: 2,5 years

My current handicap index or average score is: 24 EGA

My typical ball flight is: little push/draw

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: push right


Videos:

I usually hit it quite straight and am able to draw it when needed. I don't have much roll-out, total distance is around 215 meters (235 yds) and would like to hit it a little much further. Currently playing a Ping G20 10.5° R-flex driver.

I noticed some issues myself (weight seems to be above or in front of my feet at address, shoulders at impact are a bit strange, little chicken wing, ...) but I'm curious to read your comments.

tx,

Koen

What's in the bag:

:ping: G20 Driver (10,5, TFC 169D R-flex)
:tmade: Burner 5w
:ping: G20 4i-PW (yellow dot, CFS R-flex)
:cleveland: RTX 588 50°,56° and 60° wedges
:ping: Karsten Anser 2 putter
:srixon: AD333 ball

  • PING CFS

To me it appears you are swinging fast enough to hit it farther.  Are you missing the center of the face often?

-Matt-

"does it still count as a hit fairway if it is the next one over"

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I play the G20 myself its a really nice club. It looks to me like you are hitting it off the heal in that video. A couple things to look at.

At impact your right elbow is to far away from your side, notice how close it is in the image on the left (Alvaro Quiros).

Bend over a little more at address and on the down swing feel as if you are letting the elbow drop to your side. Relax your wrists and try to maintain the cup in your right hand.

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@ 14ledo81 : I hit it mostly on the center or slightly towards the heel

@ EverythingGolf : I'll try that and let you know how it worked out. Tx

What's in the bag:

:ping: G20 Driver (10,5, TFC 169D R-flex)
:tmade: Burner 5w
:ping: G20 4i-PW (yellow dot, CFS R-flex)
:cleveland: RTX 588 50°,56° and 60° wedges
:ping: Karsten Anser 2 putter
:srixon: AD333 ball

  • PING CFS

@14ledo81: I hit it mostly on the center or slightly towards the heel

@EverythingGolf: I'll try that and let you know how it worked out. Tx

Interesting.  To my untrained eye, it appears you should be hitting it a bit further.  What kind of flight do you get?  How much roll do you think you get?

Have you seen the thread here on hitting up with the driver?  I do not know how to link it, but that could be a help.

-Matt-

"does it still count as a hit fairway if it is the next one over"

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See the difference in where your hands are compared to Grants, once you get them there you will see a difference in speed and distance.

Try these drills.

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Interesting.  To my untrained eye, it appears you should be hitting it a bit further.  What kind of flight do you get?  How much roll do you think you get?

Have you seen the thread here on hitting up with the driver?  I do not know how to link it, but that could be a help.

flight is pretty straight (occasionally a baby fade) and has nice hight (I try to hit up on it). I don't have much roll (10m)  because of the pretty steep angle of descend I guess.

See the difference in where your hands are compared to Grants, once you get them there you will see a difference in speed and distance.

My hands get to the position in right picture some frames later? Maybe mine are a bit higher there. Or are you referring to the angle of the shaft that I'm losing?

Tx all for the drills and advices

Normally I'll be on the range today, will let you know how it went

Koen

What's in the bag:

:ping: G20 Driver (10,5, TFC 169D R-flex)
:tmade: Burner 5w
:ping: G20 4i-PW (yellow dot, CFS R-flex)
:cleveland: RTX 588 50°,56° and 60° wedges
:ping: Karsten Anser 2 putter
:srixon: AD333 ball

  • PING CFS

update on my progress (only DTL this time):

This that I've been working on:

- Bent more over

- right elbow more tucked in at the start of the downswing, still to far away at impact :-(

results so far:

- standing farther away from the ball

- ball flight is a bit lower

- slicing it :-( , apparently I'm unable to find room for my hands in order to prevent comming over the top.

Shoulders position at impact is still odd, I guess I'm subconsciously afraid of hitting the ground in the downswing.

Not happy with the results so far, but Rome wasn't built in a day

What's in the bag:

:ping: G20 Driver (10,5, TFC 169D R-flex)
:tmade: Burner 5w
:ping: G20 4i-PW (yellow dot, CFS R-flex)
:cleveland: RTX 588 50°,56° and 60° wedges
:ping: Karsten Anser 2 putter
:srixon: AD333 ball

  • PING CFS

Did you work on the drills above?

yeah I did. The flying wedge drill seems pretty easy, but it wasn't for me. I had difficulties with hitting the ball properly, my club face seemed to be open to the path most of the time resulting in slices.

I've been re-reading the topic on the right elbow and it effects on the downswing ( http://thesandtrap.com/t/54238/elbow-position-and-its-effects-on-the-downswing ) as well

What's in the bag:

:ping: G20 Driver (10,5, TFC 169D R-flex)
:tmade: Burner 5w
:ping: G20 4i-PW (yellow dot, CFS R-flex)
:cleveland: RTX 588 50°,56° and 60° wedges
:ping: Karsten Anser 2 putter
:srixon: AD333 ball

  • PING CFS

Kodewolf, In this image below you said you get your hands in the position in grants swing later, thats the problem its to late by then and you have thrown all that stored energy way to early.

When the club gets parallel to the ground that is where your hands need to be at that point.

Also take a look at this image it is the reason you are struggling with your slice and the flying wedge drill.

You are coming up out of your posture (inclination to the ground).

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Hi again,

Thanks for pointing out that I'm comming out of my posture.

I've been working on the flying wedge drill and my posture quite a bit with some positive results:

- I feel less tension in my arms,

- my iron shots go higher, but I don't lose distance

now I seem to shank more (never shanked before) and over-draw the ball. I guess my path is too much inside-out.

my drives are straight now and launch a little lower, (only missed 2 fairways on wednesday's tournament on a course I never played before). I'm guessing I gained 5-10m in distance. Still some room for improvement there.

Thanks again.

Koen

What's in the bag:

:ping: G20 Driver (10,5, TFC 169D R-flex)
:tmade: Burner 5w
:ping: G20 4i-PW (yellow dot, CFS R-flex)
:cleveland: RTX 588 50°,56° and 60° wedges
:ping: Karsten Anser 2 putter
:srixon: AD333 ball

  • PING CFS

That is good to hear the improvement. The shanks are more than likely caused by your right elbow being to far away from your body at impact. concentrate on getting it closer to your side on the down swing.

5 Simple Keys® Associate

"Golf is not a game of great shots. It's a game of the most accurate misses.

The people who win make the smallest mistakes." - Gene Littler

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

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