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I've been Playing Golf for: 15-20 years (only a handful of times a season, till this year)

My current handicap index or average score is: 25

My typical ball flight is: Slice. Starts straight at first then a wicked slice.

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: Slice


I really appreciate any and all help. I've decided I wanna stop hacking and actually get good at this game (or decent anyway). Today was a particularly awful day at the range whereas 9 our of 10 shots were awful slices. When I went last week by the end of my session I was hitting 8 out of 10 irons pretty much straight, and about half my drives were straight. Today I was just awful across the board.

Videos: All videos starts out full speed then I added a 33% speed at the end.

Driver - Down the line

Driver - Front

5 Iron - Down the line

5 Iron - Front


A couple of things to work on, but first you need to work on moving your weight forward. There are drills for that on on youtube and on the forums.

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Welcome to the site. Your hips slide to the right on the backswing and that makes it hard to get the weight forward enough on the downswing.

Couple good threads to check out.

Lower body/weight is too far back. This means your low point, where the club bottoms out, will also be too far back. Causes issues with contact and path.

If you can get the picture looking more like this, you'll hit it more solid and more outward/swing less across the ball.

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Welcome to the site. Your hips slide to the right on the backswing and that makes it hard to get the weight forward enough on the downswing.

Couple good threads to check out.

Wow. I knew I was doing something drastically wrong, and I appreciate you painting the picture for me. Really gives me something to work on. I'm kind of amazed I was even able to make consistent contact with the ball this year after looking at those pictures. I'll give it a shot and let you know how to it goes.


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Wow. I knew I was doing something drastically wrong, and I appreciate you painting the picture for me. Really gives me something to work on. I'm kind of amazed I was even able to make consistent contact with the ball this year after looking at those pictures. I'll give it a shot and let you know how to it goes.

Keep us updated. Make sure to rehearse the movements slowly so you can really change what you're doing.

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Keep us updated. Make sure to rehearse the movements slowly so you can really change what you're doing.

Happy you're enjoying the site so far. Make sure to spend some time checking out some of our other great threads.

I practiced a bunch in the mirror today. I had read about a starting move of slightly tilting my right knee towards my left knee before taking the club away, works great to stop me from swaying away from target and make me rotate around my spine, I  was keeping head super still in mirror. Then I was at Golfsmith today and hit a bunch of balls on the machiine. Oooof, wasn't pretty. Slice was still there, but not as pronounced. But I couldnt make consistent contact at all, before i could 95% of time but now not so much. I guess this will just take more practice to get the feel. Maybe ill need to tape myself again to see what other fault this change may have brought along.


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Maybe ill need to tape myself again to see what other fault this change may have brought along.

Your swing faults don't change from day to day or even month to month. And you've been working on this for less than a day. Film yourself making sure you're changing the picture.

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Just got back from playing 9. Thought about not playing because of how bad I hit it inside that sim at golfsmith. But glad my buddy convinced me to go as the weather couldn't of been any better. Shot a 46 which I was happy with. Slice was still there on some drives but not as bad and hit a few straight. Irons felt great, mostly straight and only a couple mishits. My buddy told me I was not swaying back too many times that he noticed. I never have liked those simulators much, nothing beats playing a round. Had a fun round of golf, thanks again.

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So I have a few new videos.  With my driver my outrageous slice is still there, but with my irons and 3 wood its not, which is confusing to me especially when you see my driver video compared to my 3 wood video from today below. I feel like I  am getting my lower body more forward at impact with my driver more than my 3 wood, yet my 3 wood is going straight fairly often where my driver is a bad slice 9 out of 10 times. I also feel like I have greatly minimized the backward sway I used to have in the original post in this thread with both clubs. I think I definitely still need to get my lower body through earlier, I know its better but I have a ways to go, its just hard to break that habit. Any and all advice on how to fix this slice is greatly appreciated.

Driver -Front

Driver- Down the line

3 Wood Front

3 Wood - down the line


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So I have a few new videos.  With my driver my outrageous slice is still there, but with my irons and 3 wood its not, which is confusing to me especially when you see my driver video compared to my 3 wood video from today below. I feel like I  am getting my lower body more forward at impact with my driver more than my 3 wood, yet my 3 wood is going straight fairly often where my driver is a bad slice 9 out of 10 times. I also feel like I have greatly minimized the backward sway I used to have in the original post in this thread with both clubs. I think I definitely still need to get my lower body through earlier, I know its better but I have a ways to go, its just hard to break that habit. Any and all advice on how to fix this slice is greatly appreciated.

Review this post.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/83946/my-swing-jamesindy#post_1187695

Can also check this out.

- Narrow the stance.

- Turn the feet out.

- Don't sway the hips back, turn them in place. Turning the feet out and bringing the feet closer together will help with the hip stuff but you'll still have to feel it. When the hips slide back you can't get the weight forward enough on the downswing and you swing across the ball.

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Review this post.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/83946/my-swing-jamesindy#post_1187695

Can also check this out.

- Narrow the stance.

- Turn the feet out.

- Don't sway the hips back, turn them in place. Turning the feet out and bringing the feet closer together will help with the hip stuff but you'll still have to feel it. When the hips slide back you can't get the weight forward enough on the downswing and you swing across the ball.

Thanks, appreciate it. Loved the post on drawing the ball.

After looking at both videos, while I improved somewhat with my hips and weight forward, my swing still looked very similar and my weight was definitely not forward enough. Gonna have to work real hard on breaking the habit and changing the picture as you say.


I've been practicing changing the picture in my yard. I've been able to accomplish most of it, even at full speed now. I definitely am keeping my hips from swaying back and getting my weight forward at impact. But it's created a different problem. My head starts moving forward on the downswing. It's steady on the backswing but by A5 to A6 my head moves forward by almost half my head's width, so say 3 inches or so and stays at that point through impact. I've tried concentrating on keeping it steady but it doesn't seem to work when i correctly shift my weight forward. Any tips on keeping the head steady while doing a correct weight transfer?


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I've been practicing changing the picture in my yard. I've been able to accomplish most of it, even at full speed now. I definitely am keeping my hips from swaying back and getting my weight forward at impact. But it's created a different problem. My head starts moving forward on the downswing. It's steady on the backswing but by A5 to A6 my head moves forward by almost half my head's width, so say 3 inches or so and stays at that point through impact. I've tried concentrating on keeping it steady but it doesn't seem to work when i correctly shift my weight forward. Any tips on keeping the head steady while doing a correct weight transfer?

I assume you saw it on video.

At A4, does the torso look like the left or the right pic?

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I'd like to see you look more like the right pic. Turn the hips in place and feel like the chest points down towards the ground, don't kick in too much torso extension.

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