buggyman

I played yesterday and shot a 71 on a par 70, I can live with that.. HOWEVER I played against my buddy who I always play against. Me and him are close he is a little better only becuase he plays 4-5 times a week and I play once a week. HE HAD THE BEST ROUND I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!! I didn't even think he was that low but he shot a 64! BUT THAT ISN"T EVEN THE AMAZING PART... He shot a 64 with 2 O.B.'s! 4 penalty stokes and still shoots 6 under. Needless to say I owed him some money at the end of the round.

didn't Phil give his tickets away?? I like JB's 355 yard drive on the playoff hole.

Wow this is a funny post. Put down the ganja Ganjagolfer you are losing too many brain cells . I think it is getting VERY difficult to say Jack was/is better then Tiger. I think everyweek he plays Tiger is making this a non argument. I also think the technology is a non issue. I think if you want to use that, then you have to bring up the lack of good players Jack had compared to whats on tour now. Anyone out there can win. That wasn't the case years ago.

I already posted in this thread how fast I became scratch (a little less then 3 years after starting play). Anyhow after the military and a +2 HCP I decided to try the club pro route. Let me tell you I was a dime a dozen. I would say a +2 HCP is NOT emough to play the little tours around here (Florida). I would say the minumum is a +4. When I went to take the Players Abiltiy test for the PGA program I had not played golf for 4 months (stuck in the Pro Shop) I went out and had no driver and shot 74 and 73 never seeing the course before (6500ish yards). This was 10 years ago. I got burned out on the Assist Pro job in 2 1/2 years. $18000 a year salary to work 60-70 hours a week is not worth it. Also I felt like a grounded kid. I would look out the pro shop window and see all the other people playing golf while I was grounded inside to work. Anyways I got so burned out I quit golf for 5 years. I have just re dedicated myself and am having more trouble getting my game back then I thought. I got the handicap down to a 1 but the last 3 rounds were mid 80's. I NEVER used to shoot in the 80's. So before anyone go's out and quits their day jobs, it is not all fun and games. IT becomes work. Most pros don't touch clubs more then they have too, and most PGA pros at the Local course play once or twice a week max. I will repeat the old saying from I believe it was LEE Triveno, "if you can't go to 4 different courses on any day and shoot 65 you would not have a chance on the Pro tour"

I think Tiger will end up being the greatest without a doubt. However what I think is interesting is the survey results. WOULD have been WAY different if the question was asked 5-6 years ago. I remember talk of this years ago and the news and mag guys laughed at such a thing as someone breaking Jack's major record.

anyone that doesn't at least browse Ebay for the club they are looking for is crazy. Like I said before being left handed it is the best place for us IMO. I was just browsing and picked up a Titleist 904f for $39, NEVER USED. I like the club and wanted a 5 wood just to have. I found a 904F five wood NEVER USED and was the only bid..... BOUGHT IT FOR $5 I LOVE EBAY... Like I said before Retails have to put more lefty stuff in for me to start buying there again. If I don't like the club, I throw it back on ebay and sell it for 90-100% of what I bought it for.. I have had great expierences with Global golf. The items are usually in better shape then advertised and shipping is usaully 2-4 days.

I am getting to the point to where I ONLY buy or shop on ebay. Being a better player and LEFT handed it really sucks to go to retail shops and have a tiny section in the corner for me. I have got so fed up with driving to Edwin Watts (2 stores within 20 miles) and Golfsmith that I shop on ebay, buy the club try it out and turn around and sell it on ebay if I don't like it. At most I lose $10-20 and hit the club for a few days. As far as I am concerned it is the best way for a lefty. LISTEN UP RETAIL there is more lefties out there then you want to carry clubs for.... I am getting to hate the retail stores. STOP LEFTY DISCRIMINATION!!!

I play 4 times a month. Play on Saturday morning. My short game seems to be getting worse and worse every week too.

I did like to see Freddy. ALSO I really liked the swing speed charts they were using. I would like to see that used more. I love that stuff. They showed the speeds and averages of the tour players and I have the average tour player swing speeds and distances. Just have to find a way to knock aobut 5-10 more strokes of the game.... playing 4 times a month just doesn't get it done..

I AM LEFT HANDED... in saying that it really SUCKS to go into a store with 500 sets of right handed clubs and go to the left handed section to find 4 sets of game improvement clubs with regular shafts, and I am talking big stores (Golfsmith and 2 Edwin watts within 20 minutes of me). So I shop allot on Ebay. I look for everything on there now. Not to mention if I want to try a club I have bought several, tried it for a week and turned around and sold the club and got almost all, if not all my money back. I recently bought a set of callaways X forged 4-pw with 3 x tour wedges and a Odyssey putter of $675. The clubs were used like twice. I ended up selling the itmes separate and making $260 profitt. I have a local shop and the owner is a friend and sells Taylor made so I get TM cheaper then ebay. But I have pretty much given up on Retail stores for left handed players clubs. I love EBAY and have NEVER been burned. I have had to shop allot lately while building my set to my liking. I am pretty much done, but still love to look at the deals.

I would guess the average tour player has a +4- +6 handicap. I think Lee Triveno said it best when years ago he said if you can't go to 4 courses you have never seen before and shoot 65-66 then you have no chance on tour. There is a local guy that plays to a +4 and isn't even on the Nationwide tour.

I have the TM R7 TP and could not be happier. I think these clubs are probably the est I have ever owned and I have had my share. I had bought the Callaway X forged first, but did not get the right shaft (DGs300, however played the S400 for years). I was not 100% happy with the combo so I demoed the TM r7 TP with the same shaft to compare. I could barely if any tell the difference in feel. The TM has a great feel and are extremely forgiving. I ended up selling he callaways and getting the TM and could not be happier... The irons are everything I have wanted from a club.

7.0 is the stiffest they make. The 6.5 which is what I play is equal to a DG X100. I have a 90-95 mph 6 iron swing speed and this shaft is more then enough for me. I would not recommend the 7.0 shaft. Also everyone says the Rifles play a little stiffer then the DG usually. I do LOVE my project X 6.5 though, couldn't be happier. If you play a DG s300 then look at the Rifle 5.5, MAX 6.0.

it took me between 3-4 years to get to a +2 hcp which is the best I ever got. Now I am a .5 or 1 and just started playing again after a 5-6 year break. I play 4 times a month, on Saturday mornings. I try to get to the range 1-2 times a week, just because I enjoy practicing and my game is already there. Like someone else said also, he enjoys golf more than some of his better playing buddies. Getting to scratch is a HUGE sacrifice. Then when and if you get there you loose some of the enjoyment of golf, because you become so hard on yourself to shoot good scores. If I don't shoot under a 75 I used to leave the course mad. NOw I am unhappy with myself but enjoy the game again.

That is the basic timeline for me. I said I don't remember ever shooting in the 100's when keeping score. As a kid I used to hit balls on the range onece a year on vaction in FLorida. But only really started playing golf at 21 yoa. I bought walmart clubs to see if I would like playing. About two months later out grew them and bought real clubs knowing I was loving golf. That is when I started keeping score and playing with people. The first guy I played with was a 6 HCP, a coworker, and I played with him everyday. So my goal was to beat him, and he kept me honest. Well no that was not a typo, before the first year was done I was beating him and I had an established HCP. However I LIVED FOR GOLF and read, studied, and breathed golf. Probably cost me my first wife (thankyou golf . Anyways it is possible to be scratch in a few years. But you have to give up ALLOT.