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The preview for the next show made you think L would win out. TV generally sucks at duping, which means Brent should win.

If Brent is out, I'm out. The whole team thing is stupid and unfair at this point as we have no idea how good Jay really is. I still think Brent is the best player no matter where the show goes. Mark is good but doesn't hit it long enough to ever make it on Tour. Just look at Mark Silvers. AND LEOBOILILIIILOI IS THE MOST ANNOYING CHICK I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. SHE STAYS, I GO!!!!!

Stopped casting my wrists and swinging over the top. That also helped me control my momentum going into the downswing. The draw from swinging in to out now helps a bit as well. I didn't know I had these problems until I video'd myself after my slicing troubles began. I took a lesson and the instructor was so awful he actually made it worse. I just watched hours of youtube videos before I finally found a few drills that got me going in the right direction, and the rest of the work was just done by practicing on the range.

Seems like several of you wanted to debunk my playing style first, offer answers to the question second. I stopped reading before I got to the advice part; thanks for the cliff notes

Vijay and Tiger should always be considered anomalies when it comes to anything golf

I for one think the whole FedEx points thing is dumb and only cool if you're a player, and more specifically a player that wins it all (serious $$$). As a fan, I couldn't care less about it, and quite frankly it's a little cheesy to me. Has anyone ever won the actual FedEx match and not won it all? What's the purpose of tallying points over the course of 9 months and displaying it 19 times on air during every week's tournament if it really just comes down to one tournament that has a big purse and winner takes all? I'm sure it's possible someone could win every tournament of the year and place 50th in the FedEx tournament and still win it all, but that's pretty unlikely. I also really like Jordan Spieth, and I think he could in fact be the next Tiger if he stays in the zone like Tiger did. He certainly has the talent. And as far as his exemption or Touring status, if you take out #1 finishes of other random but not "household name" players (take Russell Henley for example), then Spieth probably has more implicit FedEx points/is higher on the money list than where he is now. I know winning is a huge feat and more important to any Tour player, but the point is Spieth is probably more consistent than some of the already champions of 2013. That reason alone, he should be able to play just like any other PGA player if he's going to already be playing better than many of them anyway.

I'll probably just go with a 60-10 and see how that works out, and then later if I want more loft I can always bend it. I just really don't want to buy a $100 club that I wind up not using, or deciding it's 2 degrees too much/little. I guess down the road I may bend the 56 to 55 and leave the 60 as is, that way I have a smooth 5 degree gap up from the UW (50 degrees). Thanks for your comments. You were about the only person that actually answered my question

I really don't think I swing too hard. Plus, the numbers make sense if you start with a 4i @ 220 and work your way back ~10y per club...5i 210, 6i 200, 7i 190, 8i 180, 9i 170, PW 160, UW 150, 54 130, 56 120, etc. The 56 is such a great and versatile club for me, I feel ditching it would be abandoning the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality, so I'm just trying to add something else that would compliment it for tighter/closer shots.

Hitting my 4i 220 and drives 310, so I don't think I'm delofting anything, unless I'm delofting everything. Good suggestion about learning the 56 a bit better, I am pretty good controlling the distance with that club actually, but in a way I guess having a gap in distance and an extra spot in the bag is convincing I may as well get another wedge.

I've had 12 clubs for some time: D, 3w, 3h, 4-PW, UW, and 56 degree. Recently I made some drastic changes in my swing and got some amazing results. I was hitting my 56 degree 75y total before on a full swing and UW 110y on a full swing, and now I'm hitting them 120y/150y respectively. That range makes the

try to move your hands forward (counter clockwise) on the grip, which should leave the face slightly more open at impact. it's either a slice swing with a very closed clubface, or just a closed clubface. you really want it to be the latter.

IMO the best ball for hop and stop is the Srixon Z Star. Still can't believe you guys don't notice a ProV1 on chip shots. To me it is noticeably different, and a lot of times I'll play one without realizing it until I hit a chip, then I can tell.

silly, but... slice/fade (I represents the path your club comes in at impact and clubface angle, O represents ball) I I OI I I pull \ \ O\ \ \ hook/draw I I OI I I push / / O/ / /

i would think that a push is just like any other straight shot in that the clubface is going through the ball at impact at the same angle the clubface is open. this would in theory create no side spin, but if your clubface were open then you would be pushing it to the right. isn't that right? so if you were trying to hit a draw (inside to out), but left the clubface open at impact, you would instead just push the ball. same way with a pull because they say a lot of times when people are TRYING to overcompensate a slice by rolling their wrists, they can pull the ball instead. this would mean the angle of the club is closed at the same angle your club is coming outside to in at impact. essentially you are hitting it straight, just straight in another direction from where you intend the ball to go. it doesn't matter how you line up if you can't have a closed clubface at the same angle the club comes in at impact pointing in the direction you want the ball to go. someone correct me if i'm wrong. suffice to say, if the above is true, a push is the best miss there is as your club is at least going in the right inside to out path. adjust the grip and you should be golden.

i don't play the prov1 but i swear when i find one on the course and use it, i notice a big difference in chipping. it does the hop twice and check immediately vs. most other balls i play with having a bit more roll. that would be very interesting to try a dt solo, i always thought they were for distance and not spin.

you need a better phone

no offense but "you should take a lesson" was the worst advice so far. problem is there are far too many duds of instructors out there, and really no easy way to find one that works except trial and error. one instructor may be good for you, but terrible for someone else. plus it's a waste of money if it isn't good advice. i've learned a lot more by analyzing my own swing and making adjustments vs. having an instructor tell me. the process hasn't paid dividends for me, but i'm certainly not saying all isntructors suck because that isn't true. other than that, just go to the damn driving range and see that 99% of the people out there are terrible with terrible mechanics. why would anyone ever take advice from an amateur either???

I knew it from the 2nd episode, but Brent is going to win this thing blindfolded if they let him. And Leeboli or whatever her name is needs to be gagged for the rest of the season. Damn annoying!

it should be "what's your age, how long have you been playing, and how far can you hit it" instead of "how far you can hit it." gramps will never outdrive the college kid, provided they are at similar levels of skill. i drive a pretty good distance, 270, but am always humiliated by the junior high school boys team that plays at my local course. i swear they drive the ball 290+ on every shot.

with all the gps capabilities phones have these days, this really should be a legitimate topic had it not started off so poorly.

Went through a hell of a time slicing recently, which was weird because I never sliced before in my entire life and then all of a sudden it happened. I've mostly fixed it now, but can't take powerful swings because the slice comes back. My drives are going like 220y instead of the 280 I was used to, and the contact isn't quite as good on the irons as it used to be. No matter, my technique is much better, I just need a way to program it into my head/muscles. What approach have you taken or do you take to get a new technique to stick in your head? I've been hitting 2-3 buckets a day at the range but it gets tiring. So far it takes me several balls to remember the swing that is right, even though I just hit it the day before. I have found using the driver is the best club to practice with...if you can adjust a swing with that, you're golden on all of the other clubs. Suggestions to program techniques in your head?

The harder I swing, the more OTT (over the top, outside to in, etc.) I swing. I think people are more inclined to try and clobber the ball on the course because they think it can fly further. You let your hands and arms drive the club to the ball instead of the momentum of your body, and that always means you will be pushing the club away from your body on the downswing. At the range there is nothing to prove or improve by swinging hard, so maybe you're making more fluid movements when accuracy and distance aren't required (at the range). Also if you play public courses, most tee boxes are slanted. If you are slanted downhill (ball below your feet), the natural tendency of the landscape will want to fade the ball for you. So it's possible you aren't even making a huge error to get a resulting fade. A slice usually can't be blamed on the lie though (at least on a tee box) and you are doing something wrong. BTW when people say outside-to-in (it was a difficult concept for me to understand just by the term "outside to in" or "over the top") it just means if you are right handed, when you start your downswing your club comes down from the right side of the target and crosses across the ball as the club heads left of the target. That will always result in a clockwise spin on the ball, which is what causes a fade/slice.

I was playing good golf up until a month ago or so, for me anyway. I was consistently hitting in the 80s and my handicap was down to just under 15. Then "all of a sudden" I developed a slice in my driver. It didn't go away and in fact got worse. A few weeks later the irons followed. I took some videos and immediately saw I was coming over the top, but my body literally would not allow me to swing differently. I took a lesson hoping this would be the key, and it was a nightmare and did not help at all, and in fact maybe made the matter worse. Since then I've been watching lessons online and slowly working the slice out, but now contact and distance seem to suffer. I almost feel like I am only 2 months new to the sport again. It's very weird, and it was almost an overnight transformation. I shot in the 80s twice one week and the next week I could not break 110. The last time I shot in the 100s before that was probably 3 months prior, so there was a definite "all of a sudden" factor here. Anyway, I'm wondering if this kind of stuff happens from time to time to many golfers? Or if my hand/eye coordination just decided to give up on me for no reason? Needless to say it's frustrating. I play a lot less golf now because a round in the 110s is a round I'd rather have not played.

I've really struggled hitting a driver consistently, and I don't see how that can't be true for all golfers so I wanted to ask and find out. It's the longest club for anyone (should be), which means the margin of error is greater the more distance it can go. So it seems natural it's an inconsistent club for an average golfer. The inconsistency wasn't there when I first bought my driver, really at all. Then I started hooking it, so I practiced swinging out, which solved the hook. Then I was hitting it great for a while again. Then I started slicing, which I never have done before. So now I'm working on that. Thinking back on it, I remember changing to the Adams suggested weight in the driver head, and I think that's when my slicing troubles began. I am going to put the heavier stock weight back in and see what that does. Does that make logical sense though--heavier weight decreasing slice? Curious about the answer to that question and the Poll. And hey, did you guys notice I used capitalization? Don't get used to it.

There are plenty of 520 yard par 5's I play that are 500 to the front of the green or 540 to the back, it just depends on which GPS app you are looking at. Also there is a par 4 440 yarder at a local course I play. I drive pretty long, about 280 on average, but even when I've hit my best drive I am always hitting a 3 hybrid or 3 wood into the green on the second shot when I should be hitting a 9 iron. It's as flat as a hole can be, but either the distance is shockingly off or there is constantly an oncoming wind when I play. I haven't actually done a GPS on that hole yet, but no matter some holes can definitely trick you distance-wise.