TXjammer

Well, it's official. My home course is now crap for the winter. Greens are practically unputtable. Was walking up to my ball on #3, the ball starts to move...rolls off the green and 20 yds into the fairway. Hit a drive straight down the middle that wound up out of bonds...there's just no grass. After 2 rounds of 74 and 75 last month, I shot a 95 Sat. Forget this.

LOL!!!!! Priceless!

I had to read this twice to make sure I didn't write this post! I'm in the EXACT situation...even down to the newly found playing partners who are better than me. However, I already confronted my friend about my dilema, and this is what he told me. He said "Jay, I think you could be pro if you really tried, but you can't play good around me. So, if you get to the point where my bad playing and slow pace doesn't affect your game, you'll be able to play with anyone, anywhere." I couldn't help but agree with him, and he had presented a challenge I'm still trying to rise up to.

I play 4-5 days a week. A bad day is a good thing for me. It means I've gotten a little "lax" and makes me focus again. A really good day usually follows a bad one.

During the Volvo Matchplay Championships this year, I was watching Luke Donald and Ian Poulter duke it out. Before each tee shot, the computer model would show an animated ball flight to the ideal fairway position...usually about 265 yds. I paid close attention to where on the fairway the animated ball ended up ....Luke and Ian hit their tee shots with +\ - 10yds of that spot consistently, making their average drives 265 yds during that competition. It was their accuracy that impressed me. On the other hand, I play with some members here at home for which 290-310 yds is an average drive on level ground....but the accuracy?....let's just say I'd rather play a 265yd drive in the fairway than where those guys end up.

I laugh at myself that I can consistently (off a tee) hit my hybrid 3iron 230yds...and can only get another 10-15yds out of my driver. When I get those "downhill, downwind, roll-forever drives" that cross the 300 yd mark....I know I just got away with something. Here's what I've learned, personally, provided I hit it straight and get a little roll: Uphill drives - my average = 210 Level drives - my average = 250 Downhill drives - my average = 280

Ran a little experiment with the driver in question here.... Went out and hit a dozen or so drives at 3/4 speed....got my distance back! Apparently some new-found confidence had me swinging harder than before, and the shaft wasn't supporting the new speed. I was having to move the ball more and more forward in my stance to keep it straight (to get the club face to close)...therefor the "whip" of the club had already released mostly before impact. Makes sense to me anyway. What do y'all think?

Well first thing to consider, I have hit thousands of balls with it, and I bought it used, so no way of knowing how many were hit before I owned it. I guess it's not that big of a deal to know, I can always buy a new driver. Was just curious.

I have a Titleist 983, love it and have grown with it for the past 3 years. When I first got it after my motorcycle accident which left plates and screws in my shoulder and arm, I could only hit it about 210 yds. As time went on, got stronger and stronger and for almost 2 yrs, could hit it an average of 275. However, lately the sound of contact with the ball just isn't the same regardless that all ball marks are still in the center range of the face. Also, am noticing a slight drop in yardage, now averaging about 260 yards. I have inspected the face for cracks and what not, nothing. I'm not doubting it could be me or my swing, but I have not purposely changed anything or noticed any dramatic change in how I swing my driver. A little input or some gained knowledge on this would be appreciated. Thanks ahead.

I collect my "retired" golf balls, also. I think it's an accomplishment. I've also noticed that in spring and summer, I lose very few througout the season, but here in Texas where you can golf through the winter, but the fairways are like glass and won't hold your shot, is when I lose quite a few. I absolutely LOVE when I have time to nose around in the bushes and find a whole double handful of golf balls that have only been hit like once! I get A LOT of ProV1s that way. : D

For the most part, it's not extreme, just noticable. Some commentators are worse than others..don't know their names right of the bat, but they really throw out some fluff.

I thought this thread was about commentators exaggerating?

I hate to burst your bubble, but I watched Phil (who I AM a fan of) go from the tee..to the bushes...to the sand...over the green to the rough...chip on...and 2 putt for double bogey. I do that every time I play!!!!!! But somehow, the commentator made it sound like if it had been anyone else, it would have been MUCH worse?????? Meanwhile, young Rickie birdied the hole.

Wonder if anyone would watch my show if I had a camera follow me everywhere I went, every day, all day, and I staged little dramatic episodes now and then to keep it half-way interesting? They could even watch me on the golf course shooting 80 and talk about how I dream to one day play on tour. LOL !!!!!!! Then watch me go to sleep....then watch me and my wife have a little tiff...then make up....then get up the next day.... Anyone, doing ANYTHING can be a star now days. I can just hear that deep-voiced narrator now!!!!..... "Meet Jay....a common working man. But this working man has a dream...and not just any dream...but a dream to play GOLF!!!!!!! pppppff!!!! hahahahahahahahahhahaha sorry.

...or how the players takes just a honey swing at the ball, and they play it in slow motion 30 times telling you to "just look at the POWER he produces as he comes through the ball!!!!!" : D ....always using words and phrases like "a tremendous amount of" and "incredible strength" . LOL There's definitely athletes on the tour, but...to me, incredible strength is a phrase that should be reserved for the strong man competitions, football, and weight lifting comps.

You guys think that maybe it's done a little different from tournament to tournament? Maybe?

This is some really good info right here. Worth checking out. Don't get me wrong, by writing this thread I wasn't trying to identify a conspiracy. But as said in the prior comments, a lot of inaccurate information does get slung around. The frustrating part is, it's almost impossible to know why, or if, a player could hit a certain club a certain yardage being there are so many variables to consider. Guess I'm going to have to just quit trying to figure it out and play my game. It's all just very interesting to me. I'll just have to get on tour and find out for myself! LOL

That's what I think. It just sounds more impressive. I mean face it, we all love this game which is why we talk on here in between playing and watching it on TV. But to the rest of the population, it's not very exciting. Guess every little bit helps. That's true though about the delofting.

During the ice days, I hit into a net off of carpet in my house. When returning to the course I found I had gained some power in my swing, but was digging some MAJOR divots in the ground! Didn't take long to acquire the bad habit, but a while to overcome it.

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/434089-pics-of-a-fake-r11-compared-side-by-side-to-a-genuine-1/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/359688-how-to-calculate-golf-yardages-at-altitude/ ...yes, i did ...and he DID say PROLLY!

I'm with this guy...it's in the hole...seems to be a done deal. Did the rules allow you to "reverse mulligan" a putt? Your shot was the equivelant of a putt!

I could just be me, but being that I'm really interested in the abilities of the pros, I tend to watchdog every tidbit of info I can get on what club each player used for what shot...how far he was TRYING to hit it, and how far he ACTUALLY hit it, taking into consideration each time if it was from a good/bad lie, out of the rough, wind conditions....I just want to know what these guys can do! However, while doing so I think these commentators try sometimes to make things sound more spectacular than they really are. For example, one tournament, player after player hit their drive to 180 yds from the center of the green. Most of them hit 5 and 6 irons, one young guy hit a 7 iron, but came up about 10yds short...they blamed it on the wind. The next tournament I watch has a commentator with a british accent, which for every shot about the same 180yd distance , he would say "Bout 180 to the flag Jim, prolly nothing more than a little pitching wedge" !!!!!! A pitching wedge??? Really? Another instance they kept saying how drive after drive on one particular hole was easily over 300 yds...so I found the course on Google Earth and measured in yds from tee to their drive....270-290yds. ???? (Scottsdale, Az Waste Mngmt Open) Only a small handful reached over 300 yds. (I know, I need a life!) : ) Look, I know these guys are very good...but I don't need to be bluffed and blind-sided to be convinced. What do y'all think?

You hit it 310 from an adjacent fairway?????????? WITH WHAT???? a baseball bat? Sorry...I'm totally off topic here....but...

The day golf becomes more about fashion than talent and scoring, I will politely walk away and leave it to the John L Grants out there. P.S. I'm sure Mr. Grant's comment would REALLY bother Ricky!