RST Rebuild

Slim. Your takeaway with the club, parallel to the ground, looks awesome to me! Keep up the hard work and rooting for YOU.

I just joined up but I thought that this was Slim_Pivots thread and he posted first, and anyone can chime in. I don't understand what you're trying to tell me. It's your "page" or your website? No disrespect intended here bud. Let me know the process and will adjust.

Going with Pelz on this one. "Pelz Golf Institute research has proven that golfers lose almost 80 percent of their shots to par inside of 100 yards from the hole". I would bring a wedge and a putter if I had to choose only two clubs. Replace the putter with a 6i or 7i if no putting green available. Wedge and 7i for me!

Now this post is about the 6i FO latest swing by Slim_Pivot. I was just commenting on the release and shorter takeaway. Looks like Slim_Pivot just passively let's the club go (turned it over) and busted one. Can you show some tour swings FO for me post impact, with the arm parallel to the ground and club head in view, to examine please? You have an amazing library of stills. I want to see if the palm of the left hand (for a righty) is facing the camera on these snap shots. If it is, I just can't understand how it did not turn over via forearm rotation without spinning out the hips to an extreme position. I just want to see it to believe it. Trying to learn here and understand.

Spot on!

Can anyone chime in and talk about the position that Slim_Pivot is trying to replicate with the club parallel to the right forearm coming down? Is the high camera angle giving the illusion that that's where it actually is or is it higher up and maybe more like Duff?

I agree. This is a no brainer and anyone that thinks otherwise is, uhh. Won't say it but we know. Short game is critical to scoring. You can hit it long off the tee all day long but, if you can't get it on the green after that and at least two putt, it is simply a waste. "Hey man, nice drive and sorry you made a big number."

Exactly! Rant fever! I'm digging on this Rant Thread. You're a Hyper-Focused dude. I like it!!

No, I don't "think" your score will drop. I know they will drop. Hank Haney Cool-Aid: "What's you're big miss" approach and I can dig on that. Blow up holes destroy rounds. We all have them in one form or another. I actually flew with Charles Barkley when he was on the phone with Hank before they shot the series. We had an interesting conversation until he asked me what my handicap was. Mine is nothing to brag about ( and don't believe it should be used as a blunt instrument to prove your view is correct ) but the conversation mellowed out. Shame the focus has to be on that sort of thing when it's not about that. Good luck with your game man!!

Thanks for posting that. Now I know what you're trying to do. The club is running parallel and you're using bisecting to describe that position. You're working on swing plane so I can tell you how to check for a good swing plane with confidence. Place the camera behind your hands and point it straight down the target line. Draw a line with a swing app, I use V1 golf, from the hosel of the club and extend it to you're lower right elbow and stretch the line all the way up. That's your elbow plane and the closer you can stay on that line coming down the better. It may shallow below it during your transition which is fine, depending on your unique swing or above it if you are casting the club. So to be clear , hosel to right elbow and draw a nice straight line across those two spots from DTL. Can't tell but you may be trying to get under plane and getting too shallow. That line is your guide to good swing plane. Every swing is unique but that shaft needs to be getting near that line when the plane is coming down at some point. If you get dead on it when your hands are approaching your right hip, you're good.

Are you trying to bisect your lower forearm? ( not sure how that's even possible by coming down your elbow plane) it should be your right bicep. Maybe I'm just not understanding you correctly. In the model swing you did bisect your bicep ( upper half of the arm) and it was on plane. Now with a ball in the way I can tell you why it gets steeper. You are trying to hit a ball and your right arm is firing to soon and wanting to take over for power but you don't need to do that. The right arm needs to stay passive until you post and release. It will only steepen the shaft if you don't wait. Your left arm needs to be the dominant player up until the last moment then you can use your right side to generate more speed by releasing the snot out of the golf club. If you want to try something, hit some at a little slower speed and keep your right arm quiet and see if you have improvement. One drill would be to hit some easy ones with just your right finger tips touching the grip. The challenge is to break through with a ball in the way. It takes time, stay patient with it. But right arm dominance early in the swing causes the shaft to get steep.

Sorry to hear that mate. Wow. Well, like you said, you had some bad coaching that held you back. I had the same thing happen to me and it sucks. I'm at 2 months in now with my RST rebuild. My goal is to be hitting short shots at 4 months and then full at 6 months with a tour caliber swing. The coolest thing was I got five free online reviews when I signed up. I just purchase three at a time as I need them. Good luck with the changes and looking forward to seeing you're progress.

That's great man! And that's how it should happen. When you post up on that lead leg it will turn it loose without any conscious effort for effortless distance. Much shorter takeaway. You're a hard working dude. I wish I could hit full shots but I'm still on my Step 4.

I can see that you are releasing the club and rotating it through impact really well. Looks like you took the turf after the strike. Did you feel like you compressed the ball pretty good?

I'll bite one last time. I agree 100% with you mate and thank you for that. That's why he needed the ball to get out of his way so he can improve and get his brain to process the correct moves and be able to replicate it, after many reps, with a golf ball out of the way. When he saw that change, I suspect he got super excited that hope is still alive and "what do I do next?.The golf club is stupid. It does what your body tells it to do. The more you machine gun those balls with a bad swing, the harder it is to unwind it. I totally agree with what you just posted. I'm hanging in your home town man on business man. Super jealous....impeccable weather. I'm gonna try that scooter rental.

So if I understand you; keep hitting balls at full speed and let an instructor tell you how to correct while the student is at full speed? I'm living proof that doesn't work and have had coaching just like Slim, which is why I'm interested in the young man. I was also told my swing looked just like the pros. Nothing of the sort, across the line and vertical coming down with a flip. I never improved. Once I saw it on camera after I ingrained it. I was furious. It can be unwound at slower speeds and properly ingraining by repping it in big time and learning left side dominance. It takes months and I'm seeing it for myself after thousands of reps. I've seen the results of doing it this way with RST for myself. So, not a fan of that because I have suffered from that approach tremendously. I'm laying low until I see a post from Slim_Pivot.

Well, is a practice swing done with a club "not a golf swing"? The point is once the ball got out of his way he could focus on what his body was doing and not worry about the strike, and it looked wonderful up until the last part of the swing. That's what the cool-aid at Rotary Swing teaches me and it works. Looks like it did for Slim too.

They said that backswing was fine? Wow. Continue to do it slowly because your brain has to process the new moves. When you can do it correctly and keep it slow, rep it in the same way at least 1000 times minimum 100 per session and I can promise you it will start to get ingrained and you can speed it up. That's how my moves are changing for the better. It takes 3000-5000 reps to master a new move. It about results. If you're not getting them after tons of work you were told to do, and you did it the way someone told you to. You have to bail. It sucks but that's how the brain learns.

You are using the first video, not the one were he was able to correct what you are pointing out. He also is now bisecting his bicep with the shaft that eluded him for so long.

Hey Slim_Pivot. Take a look at the club face when your arm is parallel to the ground just before impact in your last video. Does it look like the toe of the club pointed is up to you? Well, it does to me and it looks dead square. Now as you get closer to impact, you can see the toe start to get shut because forearm rotation is taking place and it has to or you will block the shot with an open club face, you said that was one of your problems. Just let it keep rotating through impact and to your finish. Now we can't see the takeaway because you only posted a downswing, but I suspect it behaved. You should look like you are shaking hands with someone behind you when take it back with the toe up, little closed is ok but don't over do it Also, look at the sole of the club at the top of the swing; it closely matches the angle of your lead arm. That means its square and in good position. I would recommend you leave that alone and work on the later part of the swing where it falls apart. Keep the arms soft and allow for forearm rotation or you will keep getting in unsafe body positions that can get you hurt. Keep at it man. Big improvement you made there.

Now why does my avatar keep changing. It's not me, Don't I get to control that? LOL Having a good time here.

I'm not beating anybody up here. I just went to his swing and saw something. His shoulders looked open. I didn't see any discussion about his address position. HJJ003, just place a club across your chest and see if it matches your toe line. In posture looking down you will know if its off. If it does line up (parallel tracks), you are good, if not, square it up. Shoulder alignment fixed at address. Swing starts with the setup, not a debate about a camera position.

Ok, cool. Keep an open mind about it and shift that camera so it points down the target line. You want your hands between the camera and the target, then take a look at you shoulders to see if they are square. It's important to have that camera in the right place or you can get sidetracked.

That camera is a little off center to the right but take an honest look at your setup. Do you think your shoulders are square to the target and match your toe line or are they open at address? Swing starts with the setup.